Spoilers Agatha All Along discussion and spoilers.

Rather late to introduce Thanos’ girlfriend. At least Deadpool can have her all to himself now
 
I really hope we get a post credits at the end of this with Thanos giving his "because it's random!" speech to Death at a bar in Hell.
 
Not always, I assume, given that Hell is real in Marvel cosmology. Not a lot of people would choose to go there. Maybe it's not so much individual choice as cultural alignment/expectation?

Or maybe it's like the Lucifer TV series (I dunno if it works the same way in the original comics) where people damn themselves to Hells of their own making because of their subconscious guilt.

That Lucifer was originally the Sandman Lucifer, who has his own realm. Although in that realms, there are many "realities".

Yes, it was the same in the comic.

The comic Lucifer was Gaiman's Lucifer though, correct? I'm sure, under his own title, there was a lot of opportunity to flesh out the mechanics of how the afterlife worked?
 
That Lucifer was originally the Sandman Lucifer, who has his own realm. Although in that realms, there are many "realities".



The comic Lucifer was Gaiman's Lucifer though, correct? I'm sure, under his own title, there was a lot of opportunity to flesh out the mechanics of how the afterlife worked?
I believe that the TV series has absolutely nothing to do with the comics beyond the basic concept of Lucifer leaves hell and comes to Earth and opens a night club.
I think at one point they were talking about having one of the Sandman show's Endless on Lucifer, but it never happened.
 
Lucifer did get to show up though in the Arrowverse. It really didn't though feel like a comic book show IMO. It was a good show. Except for it having a bad final season.
 
I believe that the TV series has absolutely nothing to do with the comics beyond the basic concept of Lucifer leaves hell and comes to Earth and opens a night club.
I think at one point they were talking about having one of the Sandman show's Endless on Lucifer, but it never happened.
Yep. the Devil comes to LA and moonlights as police consult was not from the comics. :lol: Though like many shows, they used that spin to get a foot in the door and then pivot way and tell other stories and build a mythos.
 
Yeah, but I was under the impression the whole backstory and mythology they built up in the show, was totally different from the comics version of Heaven, Hell, the Angels and all of that.
 
Yeah, but I was under the impression the whole backstory and mythology they built up in the show, was totally different from the comics version of Heaven, Hell, the Angels and all of that.
Yes, the show had it's own take on Heaven and Hell. Sometimes totally original to the show.
 
Yep. the Devil comes to LA and moonlights as police consult was not from the comics. :lol: Though like many shows, they used that spin to get a foot in the door and then pivot way and tell other stories and build a mythos.

Well, to an extent, yeah, but they stayed pretty committed to the murder-of-the-week procedural stuff for most of the run too. I often wished they'd lean more into the supernatural stuff, but they didn't really do that until the show moved to Netflix.

Also, like far too many case-of-the-week shows, Lucifer was very committed to the formula that every investigation just happened to resonate exactly with whatever personal issue Lucifer was dealing with that week. Although in this case, it could perhaps be rationalized as God manipulating events to teach Lucifer life lessons.


Yes, the show had it's own take on Heaven and Hell. Sometimes totally original to the show.

What bugged me about it was that it was so completely Biblical, essentially saying all other religions were wrong. I would've preferred it if they'd built a more inclusive mythology, saying all religions were different metaphors for the same thing.
 
Well, to an extent, yeah, but they stayed pretty committed to the murder-of-the-week procedural stuff for most of the run too. I often wished they'd lean more into the supernatural stuff, but they didn't really do that until the show moved to Netflix.

Also, like far too many case-of-the-week shows, Lucifer was very committed to the formula that every investigation just happened to resonate exactly with whatever personal issue Lucifer was dealing with that week. Although in this case, it could perhaps be rationalized as God manipulating events to teach Lucifer life lessons.




What bugged me about it was that it was so completely Biblical, essentially saying all other religions were wrong. I would've preferred it if they'd built a more inclusive mythology, saying all religions were different metaphors for the same thing.
There's often an Abrahamic bias in Western fiction. Even Sandman leans heavily into it.
 
Well, to an extent, yeah, but they stayed pretty committed to the murder-of-the-week procedural stuff for most of the run too. I often wished they'd lean more into the supernatural stuff, but they didn't really do that until the show moved to Netflix.

Also, like far too many case-of-the-week shows, Lucifer was very committed to the formula that every investigation just happened to resonate exactly with whatever personal issue Lucifer was dealing with that week. Although in this case, it could perhaps be rationalized as God manipulating events to teach Lucifer life lessons.




What bugged me about it was that it was so completely Biblical, essentially saying all other religions were wrong. I would've preferred it if they'd built a more inclusive mythology, saying all religions were different metaphors for the same thing.

I think that sounds like it would make the afterlife even a little more confusing. It was probably better to kind of keep it simple like they did for the kind of show it was trying to be. I mean it isn't really a show about exploring faith. It is show about a man dealing with daddy issues and sort of rebelling against him and the system he grew up in and finding happiness on Earth and with a women he falls in love with.
 
I thought that Lucifer was at its best when it was "case of the week" with some serialized sub plots. Once it went to netflix it dropped that stuff and honestly I think it really hurt the show, it just wasn't the same after it went to streaming.
 
I liked the Netflix seasons except for the final season. The daughter character was boring and kind of annoying.
 
I actually liked it more once it started focusing more on the supernatural Heaven/Hell side of things. The cop cases were pretty good, but it was the other stuff that made it stand out more.
 
I'm going to go against the grain here and say I kinda missed the police procedural element of the show once they expanded things and introduced loads of new characters. I still loved the show, I just missed the simplicity of it.
 
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