After seeing Pike in action, I would love a pre-TOS Enterprise show

[F. King Daniel]

I don’t usually quote myself but...

There are NO canon violations in Star Trek. Not in any series or movies. None. Anything on screen, endorsed by the owners of the Trek IP, is canon.

There are, and have been in each iteration, a number of continuity violations, however.



(from a DSC forum thread)

I would suggest that we're long past the point where "canon" has become synonymous with "continuity" regardless of the official meaning.

 

[MNM]

Ugh. I can only speak for myself, but I want no more "pre TOS" or anywhere near that era. It bores me immensley. I want something further forward than Voyager.

 

[Henoch]

With the plans currently in the pipeline, the Picard and Section 31 (I'm not sure about the wisdom of doing Section 31, but it's happening) shows, the different eras look something like this:

2150s - Star Trek: Enterprise

2250s - Star Trek: Discovery
2250s - Star Trek: (Section 31)
2260s - Star Trek: The Original Series
2260s - Star Trek: The Animated Series
2270s - Star Trek: (Ceti alpha V)

2360s - Star Trek: The Next Generation
2360s - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
2370s - Star Trek: Voyager
2390s - Star Trek: (Picard)

I'd be happy if Pike and the Enterprise guess stars off and on during both Discovery and Section 31. Section 31 may need a "go to guy" for missions when a starship is needed. Section 31 doesn't like to share its secrets with too many people, so, they would tend to reuse the same assets.

 

[Gabriel]

Here’s my two cents In the end I’m kind of glad there isn’t any show during the 2380’s because it would probably interfere with the non-canon books. And the books in my opinion are better than the series at times. I mean I don’t know if a show could do the Borg super crisis right.

 

[Cake]

There is already one pre-TOS series running right now and there will be another in the not too far away future. And there could be even more, depending on when the animated series will be placed chronologically. I rather have a TOS reboot than another series exploring the years shortly before it.

 

[Gabriel]

There is already one pre-TOS series running right now and there will be another in the not too far away future. And there could be even more, depending on when the animated series will be placed chronologically. I rather have a TOS reboot than another series exploring the years shortly before it.

Well if they do reboot it let’s hope it successful I mean reboots aren’t always successful. I the nuBSG was ok but it could have been better. I don’t know I think maybe cbs should just let the franchise Rest In Peace. Although we all know they won’t do. That. However I’m all for reboot If they can make it as good as the Hawaii five o reboot. I know it’s not sci-fi but they did a good job with that reboot. Maybe they try a series between 2160s and the 2240s I mean that is a time frame largely unexplored and what they could have done for discovery.

 

[arch101]

The biggest problem with prequels featuring characters we already know is that those characters can never be in jeopardy. We know that Spock and Pike are alive 10 years later so nothing can really happen to them.

 

[Ovation]

The biggest problem with prequels featuring characters we already know is that those characters can never be in jeopardy. We know that Spock and Pike are alive 10 years later so nothing can really happen to them.

Overcoming jeopardy is hardly the only defining form of character development.

 

[fireproof78]

The biggest problem with prequels featuring characters we already know is that those characters can never be in jeopardy. We know that Spock and Pike are alive 10 years later so nothing can really happen to them.

No, not exactly. Characters should be interesting no matter the danger.

 

[Mudd]

I'd rather see a Pike show than anything in the 24th or 25th centuries. "Moving forward" is meaningless in Star Trek, because nothing ever changes except the names of things. Quantum torpedoes instead of photon torpedoes, Oh boy!

 

[Vger23]

The biggest problem with prequels featuring characters we already know is that those characters can never be in jeopardy. We know that Spock and Pike are alive 10 years later so nothing can really happen to them.

The characters featured from TOS thus far have been in minor or supporting roles. Still plenty of opportunity for tension and drama with the main cast.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I'd rather see a Pike show than anything in the 24th or 25th centuries. "Moving forward" is meaningless in Star Trek, because nothing ever changes except the names of things. Quantum torpedoes instead of photon torpedoes, Oh boy!

Exactly so.

"Future time" is arbitrary. Dates have no practical contextual meaning. It's all fan service.

 

[Vger23]

Ugh. I can only speak for myself, but I want no more "pre TOS" or anywhere near that era. It bores me immensley. I want something further forward than Voyager.

Why? What difference does it make?

Spaceships
Transporters
Communicators
Aliens good
Aliens bad
Aliens neutral
Captains
Crews
Ludicrous speeds
Federation
Evil monolithic alien Anti-Federations
Non-human characters who are reflections of certain aspects of humanity

Doesn't matter when or where it's set. It's all window dressing for the same shit.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The biggest problem with prequels featuring characters we already know is that those characters can never be in jeopardy. We know that Spock and Pike are alive 10 years later so nothing can really happen to them.

That's kind of true of Kirk and Spock during TOS too. We know they're gonna be okay, it's how they get there that's interesting.

DiscoSpock's arc begins with him as a scraggly haired, beardy runaway and we're gonna find out how he gets back to the bowl-cutted, clean-shaven Spock we know.

 

[The Old Mixer]

DiscoSpock's arc begins with him as a scraggly haired, beardy runaway and we're gonna find out how he gets back to the bowl-cutted, clean-shaven

SHOUTY!

Spock we know.

 

[fireproof78]

That's kind of true of Kirk and Spock during TOS too. We know they're gonna be okay, it's how they get there that's interesting.

DiscoSpock's arc begins with him as a scraggly haired, beardy runaway and we're gonna find out how he gets back to the bowl-cutted, clean-shaven Spock we know.

I don't mind knowing how characters end up. I know that many don't care for spoilers, and setting it in a prequel creates a bit of spoiler on its own. However, I liken it to knowing what the score is of a game. I don't mind knowing because I want to see how it got there.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Anson Mount absolutely crushes it as Pike, so ordinarily I'd love to see him get his own series. But it would be kind of morbid, knowing what will eventually happen to Pike...

 

[Kor]

I feel like we are getting just the right amount of Pike and co. in the current season of STDisco. If there was to be a USS Enterprise series set in this era, it would need to be substantially different from STDisco in order to maintain interest.

And I only care about 23rd century Trek. To me, that is the definitive era of the Star Trek universe.
I am not enthusiastic about 24th/25th/26th/whatever-century Trek at all. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Perhaps they could dial it back a decade or so and give us a Robert April series, set aboard the newly commissioned Enterprise?

 

[The Old Mixer]

Perhaps they could dial it back a decade or so and give us a Robert April series, set aboard the newly commissioned Enterprise?

Only if they have more advanced tech than Discovery.