Agreed. I'm not exactly a fan of the man's work either, but that sort of stuff belongs in a middle school playground.
News Adam Driver tried to bring back Kylo Ren with the help of Steven Soderbergh
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I don't want to grow I'm a Toys R' Us kid..
I can, and I did.
TFA: basically undoes all of the OT. People are mostly okay with it.
TLJ: undoes much of TFA. A lot of people grumble.
TRoS: undoes much of TRoS. Nearly everybody complains.
So, when Driver went to Iger and said, "Hey, I have an idea! Why not undo the ending of TRoS/the whole Sequel Trilogy we just finished?" ... Yeah, that doesn't sound like a great move to me.
We're talking about a mass murderer of a character here, who already got his redemption in sacrificing his life force for Rey. What the hell more is there to tell?!
Don't lump your childish behavior with Toys R' Us kids (spoken as someone who is also not a fan of Abrams).I don't want to grow I'm a Toys R' Us kid..
You could say the same about Vader. But look how they milked that.
Look at how he was handled in the old EU. He appeared to Leia in a dream once, his voice spoke to someone else another time, and that was about it, wasn't it?
Vader definitely overstayed his welcome.
If resurrecting Ben Solo would have resulted in garbage storytelling like Vader's role in Obi-Wan Kenobi and/or Ghost Anakin's role in Ahsoka, I'd say Iger spared us fans a bullet.
EU is not my strong point and I meant more what we have now, the prequels included. But I'm pretty sure we got a bit more Vader than that.
If resurrecting Ben Solo would have resulted in garbage storytelling like Vader's role in Obi-Wan Kenobi and/or Ghost Anakin's role in Ahsoka, I'd say Iger spared us fans a bullet.
I don't disagree with either of you. But it does seem to me like something they would have said yes to. Whether good quality or not. I don't think Adam Driver and Steven Soderbergh would have pushed for garbage storytelling.
I would expect something in traditional film vernacular from Soderbergh, but the language of Star Wars comes from illustration. This strikes me as having been a terrible idea (to say nothing of it being yet another unnecessary spinoff movie).
Whatever they intended should probably have just been a novel or comic.
Neither do I; I respect both of them. But I still think that, in terms of the franchise at large, bringing Ben Solo back from the dead anytime would be a mistake, and to do so immediately after TRoS would be disastrous.
True. But the transference of life energy between Rey and Ben brings in a new variable. They'd each brought the other back. We'd never seen that exact ability before. Perhaps that was a factor.
AK-shully… While I’d be against bringing Ben Solo back because he needs to be dead to pay for having killed literally billions of people, there is an apparently canonical (for now) way they could do it. One of the stories in I forget which tribute anthology had Qui-Gon’s Force Ghost not only manifesting to visit Obi-Wan, but almost being able to manifest corporeally, with the narrative comment made that eventually, he’d probably be able to do it if he wanted to (though he probably wouldn’t) — i.e. return as actual flesh and blood. And since Kylo is later one of the most powerful Force-users ever, being able to freeze a blaster bolt midair and such, it stands to reason that Ben Solo’s Force Ghost could probably manage to do it, at least eventually.
I wouldn’t want them to, but the option is there.
I wouldn’t want them to, but the option is there.
You didn't expect them to do prequels without Anakin Skywalker, did you?
I meant post-death Vader.
Other than earlier in the same movie, of course, EU aside. But yes, we'd never provably seen that ability in the films before TROS ( leaving aside the possibility that a lesser version was being used in certain places in ANH and/or ROTS ).
In an early draft script for "Revenge of the Jedi" Ben Kenobi returns in the flesh. So we can't say that George Lucas never imagined such a thing, but we can say that the final version of the movie went in a different direction and the concept never made its way into an official release while he was in charge.
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Nope. And I wouldn't expect them to bring back Kylo Ren without exploring him more.
io9 are losing their shit because the official Star Wars YouTube channel posted this particular clip today.
Whether or not this clip is trolling fandom, I find it very amusing io9 has devoted so much time and energy on this particular news story (three articles up to this point).
Whether or not this clip is trolling fandom, I find it very amusing io9 has devoted so much time and energy on this particular news story (three articles up to this point).
