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Actors/characters/plots/ships/etc. you want to see in Star Trek XII?

Dax in Trek XII?

  • Yes, as a major secondary character

    Votes: 10 7.9%
  • Yes, as a minor secondary character

    Votes: 22 17.3%
  • Yes, but not as more then a cameo

    Votes: 28 22.0%
  • No

    Votes: 67 52.8%

  • Total voters
    127
Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

This thread is becoming the hideous bloated mutated amalgamation of every tangentially relevant thread the mods care to append to it, like some obscene alchemical chimera... :eek:
 
How About a Visit from the Squire of Gothos?

As we throw around ideas for the next Star Trek, there has been a lot of attention paid to drawing upon familar characters from the "old" Star Trek universe. Rather than having Khan make a return visit, how about Trelane (perhaps taking a page from Peter David and making the retired General Trelane a member of the Q Continuum)? Talk about the possibilities of alternative universes, etc.
 
Re: How About a Visit from the Squire of Gothos?

No!!! God-like being like Trelane and Q are my least favorite stories.

I find these characters less than plausible.
 
Re: How About a Visit from the Squire of Gothos?

Honestly, if they wanted to go that route, I'd skip Trelane and go straight to Q instead. They're basically the same character and Q is way better-known.

(The main difference between them is the twist that Trelane was actually just a bratty child--and you can't get away with that surprise ending twice.)
 
Re: How About a Visit from the Squire of Gothos?

Honestly, if they wanted to go that route, I'd skip Trelane and go straight to Q instead. They're basically the same character and Q is way better-known.

(The main difference between them is the twist that Trelane was actually just a bratty child--and you can't get away with that surprise ending twice.)

Not with us old timers, anyway.
 
Re: How About a Visit from the Squire of Gothos?

Trelane is an option. But "when" would he appear? Most certainly it would have to be a second encounter rather than a first. Like Greg mentioned you can't do that surprise/twist ending a second time...could they? If it where a second encounter we would have to presuppose that "destiny" (like future spock mentioned) was hard at work and that they (the new crew) already had a very similar (to the TOS episode) encounter with Trelane. Sounds a bit dicey for intrepid trio of movie makers!

Now what about Harry Mudd? Not so complicated... Hes way more open ended.
 
Re: How About a Visit from the Squire of Gothos?

No!!! God-like being like Trelane and Q are my least favorite stories.

I find these characters less than plausible.

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Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

A part of me would love to see Shatner as Kirk in the next movie, but there are a lot of problems with the idea. For starters, just about the last thing I want to see is more time travel or parallel universes or whatever. For another thing, I’d really like to see the new cast given a chance to fly completely on their own in an adventure that is free of the plot convolutions required to include original cast members.

On the other hand, a possible story idea did occur to me not too long ago, one in which a mysterious old man named Barona makes contact with the Enterprise and convinces Kirk to help him find Spock Prime, who disappeared shortly after helping to found a new Vulcan home world. Of course, Barona is played by William Shatner and is, in fact, Kirk Prime from the original timeline, though this is not explained until much later in the story. Eventually we learn that he has traveled back in time and across alternate realities on a mission to rescue Spock Prime and return him to where and when he belongs.

But wait, how can Kirk Prime still be alive, you ask? Was another “copy” of him retrieved from the Nexus? Was his body resurrected from beneath the rock pile on Veridian III using Borg technology? Honestly, I don’t know, and I’m not sure I would even bother to explain it in the film. J.J. Abrams has a penchant for leaving certain questions unanswered and this could well be one of them. I’m imagining that when they finally do find Spock Prime, he is as curious about the answer to that question as the audience would be, but all Kirk Prime needs to say is, “I’ll explain later.”

The key is that time travel itself is not the focus of the story. It’s a given that Kirk Prime has somehow accomplished it but the details don’t matter and are never dwelled upon. He simply turns up at the beginning of the story and departs, along with Spock Prime, at the end. It is also key that the Kirk played by Shatner is, indeed, Kirk Prime, the one and only original, just the same as the Spock played by Leonard Nimoy, and the fact that they are returning to where they both belong is the ultimate validation that the original Trek timeline/universe/reality still exists and continues on, even if that doesn’t happen to be the one we are following in the films from now on.

Finally, while Shatner and Nimoy as Kirk Prime and Spock Prime would be the motivating core of the storyline, the plot itself would revolve around the new cast and how they deal with whatever challenges ensue along the way. In fact, Shatner and Nimoy should have very little in the way of actual screen time, but as it was with Nimoy in Trek ’09, every minute of it should be significant. Pine and Quinto should not be playing second fiddle here, not should Karl Urban or any of the other supporting cast members. Their part in all of this is what the film is really about.

So yeah, I can see Shatner appearing in the new film, but I don’t think there’s any way to do it without it profoundly affecting the very nature of the story and how it’s conceived, and I’m still not sure if I think it would be worth it.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

Assuming the story/role is great, I'd love to see him have a role in the next one.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

"No way. Shatner is a caricature of himself these days. He's way too old (and bloated) to make such a "return" anything more than some fanboy's wet dream.

The torch has been passed to a new generation of Trek actors! Of course, I hope Prime Spock makes a reappearance in the next film - although I'd prefer it he didn't factor into the plot. Nimoy still pulls it off. Shatner doesn't."

I agree -- would love to see Nimoy in a cameo in the next movie. He still rocks as Spock.

Shatner's days as Kirk are long gone.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

I really hope not. I think the baton has been passed and this new cast should run with it now.


Part of me agrees. But, somewhere in my heart, a tiny voice, small and faint and longing calls for the Shat to return.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

You know if it were done in a believable way - like an older Kirk reflecting on a past mission or something along those lines - then maybe. If its something off the wall like "I've come back to rescue you and reset the timeline." then no.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

I. Have. Had. Enough. Of.----------------OLDKIRK!!! (just kiddin!)
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

Nope. Shatner passed the baton to Stewart 15 years ago and Nimoy's passed the last baton to Pine this year. We're out of batons and the writers have said time travel is not part of their future plans.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

I think that Shatner should have been cast as Kirk instead of Pike. With CGI he could have looked like he was young again.

They did it with Picard in one of the X-men movies.

Oh good god NOOOOOOO. While they are at it then ,lets just screw actors off all together and just use computers to generate the whole thing.

Shatner, whilst a legend in his own right, is yesterday, is old, is fat and is done. Pine is the new Kirk and that is that. They have crossed over to the new crew now and it should be left for them to develop and season themselves into their roles. Anyone who cant deal with the change and someone else playing the role of their beloved Enterprise crew, TOUGH, watch reruns instead then.
 
Re: Should Shatner return in a sequel?

Yes,

William Shatner as Kirk can be nothing, but a positive for Star Trek.
 
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