A way the new bridge look could fit into existing Trek canon....

[Nowhere Man]

TMP was a sequel of TOS, not a reboot. Learn the freakin' difference.

Anyhoo, all they had to do for this upcoming freak show is this:

Add in some of those little equipment lockers in the panels that Franz Joseph indicated, and all would be well.

I have had mixed feelings about this till now. i like parts of the new bridge and and i like parts of the old bridge . I agree with this picture for the most part just change the chairs and make it less boxy and more sleek and there you go. we all still should bear in mind that we havent seen a full pictureof the bridge i'm just gad that the uniforms are pretty much the same and the captians chair is very much the same.I dont believe that JJ. will just come out and completely erase everything that has came before making this movie not a reboot by any means ,but a Prequil/Sequil . it's a prequil to TOS and a sequil of sorts to Neisis becouse I whole heartedly belive Nero is from the 24th century and Spock follows him or something back to the past. I dont believe that it is directy conected to Nemesis , I just believe that it is after the events of Nemesis therefore being a sequil kinda

 

[Nardpuncher]

Why is it so hard for some people just to accept that a $150m film made in 2008 isn't going to look like a TV series from the 1960's?

For many of us, it's not that we think the bridge has to look like it's from 1966...it just that I'm pretty sure we still have black paint in the year 2008, so they could use a little more of that on the bridge.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Why is it so hard for some people just to accept that a $150m film made in 2008 isn't going to look like a TV series from the 1960's?

For many of us, it's not that we think the bridge has to look like it's from 1966...it just that I'm pretty sure we still have black paint in the year 2008, so they could use a little more of that on the bridge.

Thank you, they could atleast try to get it somewhat closer

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

For many of us, it's not that we think the bridge has to look like it's from 1966...it just that I'm pretty sure we still have black paint in the year 2008, so they could use a little more of that on the bridge.

There are people here who are saying things that sound a little more radical than that.

 

[SalvorHardin]

For many of us, it's not that we think the bridge has to look like it's from 1966...it just that I'm pretty sure we still have black paint in the year 2008, so they could use a little more of that on the bridge.

There are people here who are saying things that sound a little more radical than that.

Indeed...

And all this fuss without us having even seen what the rest 80-90% of the bridge looks like.
Not a complete shot, no video with the lighting used in the actual movie, just a picture or two...

 

[USS Excelsior]

They may as well use the original design from TOS with a few tweaks, since this redesigned bridge would be just as off as what would really exist in that time period. We already have touch sensitive equipment with an interface that can be used for endless functions, like ipods and touch sensitive cell phones today.

Why bother with screens at all when you can have 3D holographic images that are suspended in the air, something that we would see ourselves in 20+ years.

 

[Capt_Jason]

What you're basically saying - and you're right - is that the current set design is so different from the familiar TOS one that the only way to reconcile it is to simply get rid of it at the end of the movie.

That's almost certainly not going to happen.

OTOH, it's possible that the bridge will look a little different in any sequels simply because such adjustments are so often made in these films over time. The bridge set used in the TOS-based movies changed some between every single film.

Again, we have to chock up this particular discussion to blind-panic and desperation to make what we will see fit with what we saw.

We have already seen some prelim views of A bridge, we know what the Pike-era bridge is supposed to look like, and what we ended up with during the Kirk-era...temporal digression...

We ARE getting a new take on the origins of characters we are already familiar with framed within a story that is clearly designed to revive but re-imagine the program. We can NOT go back to what we have already seen and heard from 1966 to the demise of ENT. With Leonard Nimoy being a fondly-touching connection to the past, us old-timers are expected to feel a rush of nostalgia while at the same time feeling a sense of renewal in these fresh new faces. This situation is no different than a new Batman or a new Superman, even Flash Gordon.

Kirk and company are now time-tested legends whch have now become a part of a grand mythology. Why not simply take this movie for what it is intended to be? The old on-screen "canon"...IMO is now best being kept by the likes of New Voyages, Starship Farragut, and the like.

We CAN'T beat the new bridge to make it fit with 1960s-era set designs and theatrical technology. Let it go, mate!

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Why bother with screens at all when you can have 3D holographic images that are suspended in the air, something that we would see ourselves in 20+ years.

Why bother with saws when you have chainsaws? Actually, I can think of many reasons.

 

[Therin of Andor]

They may as well use the original design from TOS with a few tweaks

They are attempting to make TOS acceptable to new, young, discerning fans, and to people who have scoffed at TOS designs since the 80s.

Using the original 60s designs on a cinema screen in 2009 is just going to be scoffed at.

 

[blockaderunner]

TMP was a sequel of TOS, not a reboot. Learn the freakin' difference.

Anyhoo, all they had to do for this upcoming freak show is this:

Add in some of those little equipment lockers in the panels that Franz Joseph indicated, and all would be well.

It's obvious that you are against this. So why are people like you and MattJC have your panties in a bunch over it? You don't like it, don't watch it and let the rest of us who want this franchise to move forward enjoy it.

 

[Qonos]

He thinks he's a true fan and he's defending HIS precious Star Trek from outsiders who would rape and pillage it.

Of course it's that attitude which is going to leave us with nothing but DVD's and conventions... It will be back to the early 80's when our favorite scifi show was something to be the mana of lifeless geeks and nerds, when we have a chance to gain a foothold in the mainstream and when we say we like star trek people won't laugh at us.

It's okay Robert you keep your shields up, you fight the good fight... the rest of us will plunk down our money and allow the fanbase to grow even larger...


As I keep saying this same treatment did wonders for the Transformers...

Which is the movie I'm going to see the month after Star Trek comes out..

May Star Trek
June Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen...

2009 the year of the sci fi nerd...

 

[Captain Robert April]

TMP was a sequel of TOS, not a reboot. Learn the freakin' difference.

Looked quite a reboot to me, especially the refitted Enterprise.

While stating in dialogue that they'd just completed an 18 month refit? With Decker stating flat out that "this is an almost entirely new Enterprise"? That's not rebooting anything, that's continuing the story.

Or should every regeneration of the Doctor count as a reboot?

Not to mention that, for quite a while, Roddenberry anticipated casting the likes of Paul Newman and Robert Redford as Kirk and Spock (or was that Spock and Kirk?), and even invited Walter Koenig to play Chekov's father!

The studio wanted Newman and Redford. Roddenberry insisted on the original cast.

He also recast his lead Vulcan with a new actor: David Gautreaux as Xon.

Not the same as recasting the role of Spock.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

He thinks he's a true fan and he's defending HIS precious Star Trek from outsiders who would rape and pillage it.

Wholly ineffectually, though.

 

[Qonos]

He thinks he's a true fan and he's defending HIS precious Star Trek from outsiders who would rape and pillage it.

Wholly ineffectually, though.

And unnessacary seeing as he can not watch whatever he doesn't want to..

As I did with Voy and Enterprise.. I really never got into them, and my hatred for Berman aside I left them well enough alone. During the time Trek wasn't what I wanted I stayed away, now that this new version is looking interesting I came back. It simple logic, it's like sharing a pizza with your friends, just pick off the toppings you don't like and eat the ones you do.

 

[TeutonicNights]

It's obvious that you are against this. So why are people like you and MattJC have your panties in a bunch over it? You don't like it, don't watch it and let the rest of us who want this franchise to move forward enjoy it.

Yeah this opinion thing sucks.

 

[Qonos]

It's obvious that you are against this. So why are people like you and MattJC have your panties in a bunch over it? You don't like it, don't watch it and let the rest of us who want this franchise to move forward enjoy it.

Yeah this opinion thing sucks.

To quote Harlan Ellison. You are not entitled to your own Opinion, you are only entitled to your own INFORMED opinion. Neither April or Matt are fully informed on what's going on, they have not


read a script
been on set
seen the movie

So their opinons (Which they have been boarderlining on forcing down everyone elses throats) Are not informed. Not the I don't like it part, but the "My god they are bastardizing Trek" Part. Seeing as Trek only had one parent it was already a bastard child to begin with.. (this part is a joke)

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

To quote Harlan Ellison. You are not entitled to your own Opinion, you are only entitled to your own INFORMED opinion.

Harlan's wrong about that; always has been.

Even ignoramuses have the right to express opinions.

No one is entitled to have others respect the content of an uninformed opinion.

 

[TeutonicNights]

Though I have grown into a supporter of this movie I think the point that they could have made it more faithful
to the Original and STILL be more kewl than what we 've already seen is a pretty strong one. That doesn't mean the whole movie will be killed by such stuff, but it can't hurt to hear some points brought up, even if it comes from people who are bitching about a movie I'm looking forward to personally.

In my opinion JJ has already revealed some strange design choices
- uniforms
- pretty dumb-looking, superfluous (imo) "hostess station"
- lotsa plexiglass and this pseudo-kewl circuit pattern

I mean yeah, the "You ppl are hopeless" post by CRA was going too far as well but I'd like the negative people to have their say as well.


Damn if this movie tanks this forum will be burning.

 

[M'Sharak]

But burning what (and whom)?

Why not let's get back to talking about the bridge and not so much about individual posters? (Their opinions are, as always, fair game.)

 

[Inquisitive]

TMP was a sequel of TOS, not a reboot. Learn the freakin' difference.

Anyhoo, all they had to do for this upcoming freak show is this:



Add in some of those little equipment lockers in the panels that Franz Joseph indicated, and all would be well.

I am sorry, but for a supposed 23rd Century starship that bridge looks a little archaic, especially when the Command and Control rooms of many modern US Aircraft Carriers, Destroyers and Guided Missile Cruisers look just as advanced.

USS Vincennes (CG-49 circa 1988 20 Years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ennes_(CG-49)_Aegis_large_screen_displays.jpg

[Image converted to link - M']

SSN 774 Virgina (Circa 2004 4 years ago)
Virgina Command and Control room