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A way ENT can be referenced in Star Trek XI

Just random, one-disc per year movies might work. Get Bakula and the gang back together for a couple of Web or DVD projects a year and fill in the six-year gap between "Terra Prime" and "TATV" with some Romulan War stories.
 
I think it's generally understood if ENT ran its seven seasons, we would have seen the Romulan-Earth War, and the NX-01 would have played a major role. There is no reason why this cannot be tapped into with the ENT cast and crew for some TV movies, mini-series, or direct-to-DVD releases.

Remember, it's canon that Archer was considered by John Gill "the greatest explorer of the 22nd Century," so there must be some good stuff left to tell.
 
A cool reference to ENT I'd think is we see a picture of Archer on the wall at Starfleet Academy along with other famous Starfleet captains (mostly head shots of the people working on the movie or fans or whoever).
 
In my 24th century-era fanfic stories using my own captain, ship and crew there's a statue of Jonathan Archer on Academy grounds not that far from some of Boothby's prized rose gardens.
 
SPOCK: Curious... Tee, Captain?

KIRK: 'Tiberius,' Mr. Spock. My father demanded something a little more... dignified than the name my mother had chosen.

Spock raises an eyebrow.

KIRK: 'Trip,' Mr. Spock. My great grandfather's nickname.

SPOCK: I see... Vulcans do not have middle names, Captain, and rarely do---

KIRK: Fascinating, I'm sure. [smirks to Bones.] Sulu, set a course for [etc.]
 
KIRK: Back at the Academy we learned one important thing about deep space exploration. If nothing else, try to avoid having the nickname "Trip" and dying in a ridiculously contrived manner for little or no purpose.
 
A quick question: if the new film is supposed to be set in a different canon, what would be the point in referencing ENT?
 
I already tend to think of ENT as an AU or "new canon" anyway. :D Still, I don't really care one way or another if ENT gets referenced at all, I'm more worried about how the movie itself is going to be.
 
I'll know if I want to see the movie soon enough, when the teaser trailer comes out in a month or so :)
 
There is no such thing as "new" or "different" canon. It's either canon or not canon. The new movie will be canon, as ENT is.
 
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HRHTheKING said:
Very well. I shall rephrase it as: thus far, no indication or evidence exists to believe that ENT is gaining support from a wider audience in the two years since its cancellation.

I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that it was doing hella good in the sci-fi airings.
 
Captain59 said:
There is no such thing as "new" or "different" canon. It's either canon or not canon. The new movie will be canon, as ENT is.

If the new movie brings us a totally new Enterprise, new uniforms, new technology, and story events that don't fit in with what we know, then it's 'not canon'.

If the new movie starts off in 'canon', then deliberately moves into 'not canon' to avoid having to tie down this film and any subsequent films to existing material, then it's 'not canon'.

ENT could get away with being so drastically different visually yet still be canon because there is about a century between it and TOS - who knows what happened there? But if the new film is supposed to be a prequel to TOS set only a handful of years before, but gives us a whole new look to the universe, then it's 'not canon'. Or rather, to be more accurate, it's 'new canon'.

And within this 'new canon', ENT, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9 and VOY, as we know it, didn't happen by default. The new target audience won't know its happened. So why reference it?

If, however, I'm totally off the mark, and the new film is canon in that we'll be getting everything as it should be (with a few minor graphical updates for the big screen), and the rumours of the timeline being changed permanently are false, then by all means, reference ENT. I would suggest mentioning that the NCC-1701 is being named after the "greatest explorer of the 22nd cetury" :)
 
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The Yellow Snow said:I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that it was doing hella good in the sci-fi airings.
FWIW, I never watched it before DVRing it the last six weeks or so on SCIFI.

Between VOY on Spike and ENT on SCIFI, I've had a lot of 'new' Trek to watch recently... my interest in Trek re-awakening after 10 years or so of dormancy.
 
Captain X said:
I already tend to think of ENT as an AU or "new canon" anyway. :D Still, I don't really care one way or another if ENT gets referenced at all, I'm more worried about how the movie itself is going to be.

True.

But since I don't think the new film is a reboot anyways, it wouldn't hurt to toss in one or two brief 22nd century historical references to Archer and the NX-01 for continuity's sake and for the larger fanbase.
 
BTW cooleddie74, I'm having Burger King tonight...the chicken sandwich--when the heck did they make it smaller?--and King Size fries.

And so you know, even though you changed it, your avatar still gives me nightmares.
 
I am one of those who gave up on Enterprise during the Xindi arc then came back for the fabulous fourth season. I have to say I am enjoying the series much more in reruns than I did the first time. I still think the fourth seasn is the best, but am fond of the simpler first- and second-season episodes too. The Xindi season is the only one I didn't care for.

I say it's canon, and I say throw 'em a bone. It doesn't have to be huge. I don't think anyone from the crew should be anyone from the new crew's ancestor, but some small mention that doesn't drive the plot would be appropriate... well received by ENT fans and most likely virtually unnoticed by the great unwashed masses.
 
Captain59 said:
BTW cooleddie74, I'm having Burger King tonight...the chicken sandwich--when the heck did they make it smaller?--and King Size fries.

And so you know, even though you changed it, your avatar still gives me nightmares.

As it should. :devil:

As per the chicken sandwich size, I dunno. Noticed it myself but can't speak for the company. Maybe it was a cost-saving measure for some reason.
 
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cooleddie74 said:
Mentioning Archer, the NX-01 and the Xindi probe attack during an Academy class would be cool to hear. Maybe flash an archival photo of Archer on a screen or viewer as the cadets are learning about 22nd century exploration and Earth history.

I agree. Well, maybe leave out the Xindi stuff and just talk about Archer and Shran and the beginning of the Federation.
 
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Anything. I'll take any bone J.J. Abrams and Paramount decide to throw us, however brief. Just make ENT a part of the larger TREK universe and continuity by showing us more of how Archer and those early years of Starfleet affected everything else that came afterwards.
 
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Captain59 said:
HRHTheKING said:
The success of TOS and its characters in the years after cancellation can hardly be described as a failure in the same context as ENT.
ENT has only been off the air a couple of years. I think you're going to be surprised at what happens.

As existing "Enterprise" fans grow old and die, there will be no evidence that it ever existed.
 
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