Drago-Kazov
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Does thhe Martinverse has something similar to the Star Wars Essential Atlas.
Something examining the Lore of the world.
Something examining the Lore of the world.
A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion
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There's at least one book coming out soon, and another later. There's The Lands of Ice and Fire, which will be a world atlas (released at the end of the month) and World of Ice and Fire, which is supposed to be a companion of sorts, although there is no solid release date for this, nor would I guess there is likely to be until GRRM gets close to finishing the series.
Drago-Kazov
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There isn't a solid release date yet, but there'll be one sooner than that. The world book has always been planned to come out between Dance and Winds, and Martin is working heavily on his portions of it right now. I would imagine his hope now is to deliver it soonish for publication next year. Then again, his hope last year was to deliver it last year for publication this year, so...
The world book has been in development for a long time. It was first announced in 2006 for publication in late 2007/early 2008, back when Martin was deluding himself that he could finish Dance very rapidly after Feast. Then it kept getting pushed back along with Dance; by June 2011, when Martin had finished Dance and was turning his attention to various other projects, the world book was "almost three years late" and "need[ed] to be finished and delivered by year's end." That was, I would guess, the big reason why he reported around that time that he wouldn't even be starting The Winds of Winter until early 2012; he was hoping to finish the world book instead. Obviously that didn't happen; as recently as mid-September of this year he was still working on it, reporting (oh, the surprise) that the new material was taking, and becoming, longer than he had expected.
Looking now at the subforum of Westeros.org where the world book is being discussed (including by the co-authors and forum owners), I see that the text of the world book had been finalized by the end of last year and they were just waiting on artwork... but then while the artwork was being completed Martin decided to add more material, including the stuff he's been working on recently. The map book, a fairly recent development, ended up taking the publication slot originally planned for the world book, which is now on track for release sometime late next year.
Looking now at the subforum of Westeros.org where the world book is being discussed (including by the co-authors and forum owners), I see that the text of the world book had been finalized by the end of last year and they were just waiting on artwork... but then while the artwork was being completed Martin decided to add more material, including the stuff he's been working on recently. The map book, a fairly recent development, ended up taking the publication slot originally planned for the world book, which is now on track for release sometime late next year.
looks like The Red Wedding could be coming to our screens in the next series 
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/is-game-of-thrones-getting-ready-to-film-the-red-wedding
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/is-game-of-thrones-getting-ready-to-film-the-red-wedding
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No surprises there, as it's been speculated for a while that the Red Wedding would be the ideal subject for the ninth episode of the season given that ASOS is divided into two seasons.
Looking forward to it, anyway, as it's one of the most wrenching and brutal passages of the novels.
No surprises there, as it's been speculated for a while that the Red Wedding would be the ideal subject for the ninth episode of the season given that ASOS is divided into two seasons.
Looking forward to it, anyway, as it's one of the most wrenching and brutal passages of the novels.
^ No kidding. 
I'm curious just what shenanigans GRRM has up his sleeve for TWOW and ADOS.
Cheers,
-CM-
I'm curious just what shenanigans GRRM has up his sleeve for TWOW and ADOS.
Cheers,
-CM-
Extensive interview with George RR Martin this month.
He talks up a storm but no news about publication.
He talks up a storm but no news about publication.
Good interview, but some of the translation errors were a bit distracting. Martin strikes me as a very precise speaker, in a similar manner of how he writes his books. When there is a slight deviation by the writer/interviewee away from English, or being written by a person who doesn't have a complete command of the English language it seems to really interrupt the flow of the content and deteriorated even more towards the end. Other than that, looking at what I perceive to be the content of the interview, I thought it was well done and not full of a bunch of cliched questions.
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I read that episode 8 will probably feature Sansa and Tyrion's wedding. I think it was on winteriscoming.net.
I wonder if they will reference the document Robb had his bannermen sign before his death?
I wonder if they will reference the document Robb had his bannermen sign before his death?
If the letter's going to be at all important later on, I'm sure they'll work it in. I don't tend to think it will be-- whatever Jon does after A Dance with Dragons, it probably isn't going to be taking up the banner of the King in the North, and if all that happens is him refusing the possibility, that's not important enough from the TV writers' perspective to be worth dramatizing.
I imagine the order of King's Landing vs. Riverlands events in the book is likely to be jumbled a bit. If the show stuck very faithfully to the sequence of events in the book, they'd have to do Joffrey's wedding in the first or second episode of season four, and then the rest of A Storm of Swords would only take up half the season. That might be the plan, but I doubt it. We already know, for example, that Oberyn Martell isn't being introduced this season, even though in the book he arrives in King's Landing before the Red Wedding.
I imagine the order of King's Landing vs. Riverlands events in the book is likely to be jumbled a bit. If the show stuck very faithfully to the sequence of events in the book, they'd have to do Joffrey's wedding in the first or second episode of season four, and then the rest of A Storm of Swords would only take up half the season. That might be the plan, but I doubt it. We already know, for example, that Oberyn Martell isn't being introduced this season, even though in the book he arrives in King's Landing before the Red Wedding.
I'm curious if the letter "naturalizing" Jon as a full-blooded Stark is even going to be worth the paper it's printed on, seeing that...
...damn near everyone who would have recognized its legitimacy is now dead or imprisoned. For that matter, does the letter even exist any more? And, yes, I would agree that Jon really doesn't have much interest in lording over the smoking hole that is Winterfell, particularly since he turned it down quite promptly when Stannis offered it to him. That, plus, by the end of ADWD, he has become quite occupied with the rather egregious problem of possibly being dead at the hands of his brothers. Melisandre to the rescue! 
A few people who know the content of the declaration are alive and free, mostly notably Galbart Glover and Maege Mormont, who have the physical copy, and whose whereabouts since their departure for Greywater Watch during A Storm of Swords are unknown. But there's hardly anything in the way of an army to press a claim by a new King in the North... at the moment. How the northmen currently allied with Stannis or with Bolton might react to a Stark resurgence is an open question, though, as we agree, probably a moot one.
As the release of The Lands of Ice and Fire approaches, a few preview images of parts of the map have been posted. Last week Westeros.org had a fairly dull piece of the map of the North that didn't really add anything we hadn't seen before, but this week there's a section of the Braavos map that's a little more interesting. MTV Geek has four images. Two of them (a snippet of the Beyond the Wall map including Castle Black and Craster's Keep, and a close-up of the northeastern part of Valyria) are just prettier versions of maps we've seen before, but there's another piece of Braavos, and something from a map called "The Known World" that features a number of locations I don't think have ever been referenced before; presumably they're in unvisited parts of Essos or Sothoryos.
Red Wedding confirmed for episode 3.09:
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/10/new-in-depth-report-from-the-set-in-northern-ireland/#more-20858
David Nutter directing.
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/10/new-in-depth-report-from-the-set-in-northern-ireland/#more-20858
David Nutter directing.
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