A series about the Enterprise C crewe?

[DeMilburn]

Just thought I would put this out there.
A way to maybe bring Star Trek back, and keep with a tradition that fans would be happy with would maybe do a series focused on the USS Enterprise C with Captain Rachel Garrett.
Its nice middle ground set before TNG and after TOS, its a timeframe fans are used too, they can change it a little by going dark with it if they need too and there is a 12 year period when it was operational to take stories from. Also, we all know that the ship was destroyed and all crewe killed at Narenda III so all the while the show can be building up to that event and will be the first time in Trek history that the whole crew of a ship we come to love will die. It has a conclusion that can be brought about whenever the series reaches a point when it needs to end due to network reasons.

 

[T'Girl]

If we go with such a serie, i would prefer not having Garrett as the captain, or present in any fashion. A prior captain and crew, at least a decade before the events of the TNG episode.

 

[Dukhat]

I'm always leery about prequels, especially after ENT, TPM, AOTC, and ROTS.

Plus, who really cares about the Enterprise-C?

 

[uniderth]

Perhaps come up with a good miniseries idea and then have it take place aboard the Enterprise C.

T'Girl what is your reason for not having Garrett?

 

[Jeffe525]

At first thought, bad idea. But I think, if done right, the finale could be heartbreaking, really epic.

2 problems: the original actors are too old and the ship looks like an odd, ugly mesh-mash of old and new. That's 2 retcons before you even get started.

 

[uniderth]

Just hire new actors. It's been done before. Saavik, Zefram Cochrane, Captain Pike, etc.

 

[DeMilburn]

At first thought, bad idea. But I think, if done right, the finale could be heartbreaking, really epic.

2 problems: the original actors are too old and the ship looks like an odd, ugly mesh-mash of old and new. That's 2 retcons before you even get started.

Lol yeah it would be a whole new series so all new actors. I dont think the ship is bad at all.

 

[T'Girl]

T'Girl what is your reason for not having Garrett?

First off, wasn't all that impressed with her.

Second, during the course of a new series she could never be credibly placed in danger, because we know ahead of time she survives (of course the same applies to the ship).

 

[Esirprus]

Star Trek fans don't like dark star trek in my experience. Being one I found the dark side the worst part of DS9. Voyager was back to hope for the most part and more popular with me, and I suspect other fans. They didn't get a standard movie deal like TOS and TNG but they did do a 3D movie. People wanted more Voyager.

I think backtracking is always a problem. The future contains endless possibilities while the past is confining.

Ferengi first contact was made by Picard on the Stargazer and later on the Enterprise-D. Ferengi have become token characters like Vulcans in that Star Trek fans find it a foregone conclusion there'll be a couple references. Cardassians also were not encountered until Picard was a Captain of the Stargazer. So while an interesting concept it requires a historical documentary approach to ensure the timeline is preserved.

What about a prototype timeship? That's an idea. First step towards the 29th century.

 

[uniderth]

T'Girl what is your reason for not having Garrett?

First off, wasn't all that impressed with her.

Second, during the course of a new series she could never be credibly placed in danger, because we know ahead of time she survives (of course the same applies to the ship).

Ok cool. I was just curious. Although, is not being in credible danger, that big of an issue? When watching any TV show aren't we reasonably sure that the main characters wont be killed? Does watching an episode once make that episode unrewatchable(now there's a word) because we already know how it is going to end?

I suppose everyone just has different tastes. My wife tends to not watch movies a second time. I on the other hand can rewatch a show over and over again. Boat floating and all that.

I think backtracking is always a problem. The future contains endless possibilities while the past is confining.

What is the future, but the past we haven't lived yet?

On a more relevant note I find that when it comes to Star Trek, the past isn't so constricting. rather it is the B&B cliches which are confining. Enterprise is the prime example. It could have been something evolutionary and amazing; yet we just saw the same boring B&B cliches. Were there It's possible to have awesome Star trek without Klingons, Ferengi, and the Borg. But Enterprise couldn't escape from that formula and so it failed.

 

[DeMilburn]

True, we know that the captain would not be killed and the ship would not blow up, but there is a whole crew of characters that could be created whose safety might not be guarenteed. The only assured thing is the captain and ship would be ok which as uniderth points out, would be pretty much assured anyway.
Ok they dont have to go dark with it and yes, some of the big species are not discovered yet, but Im sure they could still discover some cool aliens etc. Space is massive. Where Kirk and co went North, Picard went South, Garrett could go east.

 

[Dukhat]

I suppose the real question is: What would having a series based on the Ent-C bring to the franchise that a series based on any other ship in any other time (or universe) wouldn't?

We already had Voyager, which promised something new by being stranded in a part of space that was unexplored. The result however, was just more of the same TNG-style stories.

We already had Enterprise, which promised something new by being a prequel about the formation of the Federation. The result however, was just more of the same TNG-style stories (at least until the last season, but by then it was too late.)

Star Trek: Enterprise-C: ?

 

[CRM-114]

It seems to me a show like this could face the same basic issue as How I Met Your Mother: Do you keep to the original planned ending if, in the course of years of storytelling, you've arguably outgrown your original premise? Even people who loved HIMYM to the end found Ted and Robin getting together to be unsatisfactory, as the show had creatively moved on from that idea.

If such a Star Trek series were made, should Captain Garrett still be killed off in the end, if perhaps the series has moved on from that notion? Or perhaps, should that be the concept of the series itself; does Captain Garrett accept her destiny or does she try to run from it? Would she try to change history?

The more I think about this, the more it intrigues me.

 

[Bagofmostlywatr]

I'd like to see it, just not sure why you want to set it in Cheshire :P

(Crewe)... That ones going to lose everyone outside of the North of England.

 

[CRM-114]

I'd like to see it, just not sure why you want to set it in Cheshire :P

(Crewe)... That ones going to lose everyone outside of the North of England.

Spell it "Krewe" and it would only appeal to those who celebrate Mardi Gras hardcore.

 

[Ember]

I don't like those kind of prequels for the sole reason that we know the Enterprise C and her crew dies. For me, this makes any achievement in that series before their death insignificant.

 

[uniderth]

So if they defended the Federeation against an extra galactic threat, that would be insignificant because they would later die? Doesn't everybody die eventually? Does that make all our achievements insignificant?

 

[Norsehound]

Anyone who has seen Star Trek 2 knows that Terrell dies, and dies as a cardboard cut-out tragic captain. That did not stop my enjoyment of the Character in Vanguard or The Seekers. If anything, it gave Terrell's death more significance since I got to know the character.

The same thing can be said for the Enterprise-C, should a series about this crew be made.

As I prefer the look of the Ambassador-class over every 24th century-era starship, I would be interested in seeing this kind of series. This can talk about the Federation at the height of its growing phase, when it is maturing from a dynamic growing Federation to the stagnant passive utopia at the beginning of TNG. We can talk about the first encounters (and wars) with the Cardassians and go in-depth on describing the meeting of this race for the first time.

Also, why doesn't anyone plan to close their series from the beginning? An Ent-C show doesn't have to be open-ended during planning. Babylon 5 wasn't, and while they had to telescope the series a couple of times, one could argue that it was better by not going on so long to become stale.

So an Enterprise-C show could do about two or three years worth of episodes, and end on a tense note. Maybe increase the tensions in the last season with the Romulan attacks, and the audience is just waiting for those orders to Narendra III. But the audience will have come to know the ship and crew well, and their loss will be a melancholic one.

Or does it? We know Tasha made it out, maybe the crew is shown to survive in some form after the ship was lost. Someone had to make it out to report on the ship's destruction.

 

[Cronus]

One avenue of exploration I would like to see would be the deescalating war between the Klingon Empire and the Federation. How did the treaties come about?

I would also explore the rise of the Romulan Star Empire. I don't recall the latter playing a big part in TOS (I may be wrong given that I have not sat down and watched the entire series) or in ENT, but they were present in TNG as antagonists, so it could be a great idea to explore just how the empire came to be in a war with the UFP.

The Gorn could be a good antagonist race... they haven't been explored much in ANY of the series. (I do recall a single episode of ENT with a Gorn). Could be a good opportunity to flesh out the race a bit more.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Anyone who has seen Star Trek 2 knows that Terrell dies, and dies as a cardboard cut-out tragic captain. That did not stop my enjoyment of the Character in Vanguard or The Seekers. If anything, it gave Terrell's death more significance since I got to know the character.

The same thing can be said for the Enterprise-C, should a series about this crew be made.

Agreed

We've seen what happens to this ship and crew but know next to nothing about them, having a short series that explored them in greater depth and detail would only make their sacrifice all the more impactful.

It could focus on the few months building up to their end, where the crew is a tight-knit bunch who've shared some great adventures, and are faced with a serious incident they alone can resolve. Then end it, as they are all trying to unwind following a hard and difficult mission, with the ops officer looking back at Captain Garrett stating that they are receiving a distress call from the Klingon outpost on Narendra III. Leave their final battle and the loss of the ship up to the viewers imagination, based on what we've learnt of the crew and already knew of its outcome.

As I prefer the look of the Ambassador-class

She is a beauty