A Scientific Parallel To Religious Questions

[Silvercrest]

Recently I heard the perfect answer to that one. "Yes, He could. And then He'd move it anyway."

 

[137th Gebirg]

Good response!

 

[Amaris]

As far as I'm aware, Jesus literally being God made flesh was basically a retcon by early Christian leaders and not something Jesus himself ever claimed. There's little doubt he considered himself the promised messiah, but plenty of doubt he ever claimed to actually be God.

There's some wishy-washy text in John 10:30, where Jesus says that he and his father are one, but that is really open to interpretation. I mean, you could ask the question "one what?" One mind? One spirit? One goal? It could mean almost anything.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

One of my favorites - "Can God create a stone so heavy that He cannot move it?".

I always wondered, if God is so perfect, why philosophers and theologists are convinced he has such lack of self-control than he can't help himself from moving his unmovable stone?

I mean, when I document my objects as immutable, I don't ever change them, even though I could... I wager God could do the same.

 

[Gov Kodos]

One of my favorites - "Can God create a stone so heavy that He cannot move it?".

I always wondered, if God is so perfect, why philosophers and theologists are convinced he has such lack of self-control than he can't help himself from moving his unmovable stone?

I mean, when I document my objects as immutable, I don't ever change them, even though I could... I wager God could do the same.

The question was amusing back in first grade of Catholic school, but why would a metaphysical entity be in any way definable by the conceptions of our physical reality?

 

[Dryson]

Taking one or all of the following six religious questions what scientific parallels can you draw from them. What scientific processes would help you to fulfill each or all of the questions below?

1."Why was the Creator created?"
2."How was the Creator created?"
3."Where was the Creator created?"
4."When was the Creator created?"
5."With what was the Creator created with or from?"
6."Who created the Creator?"

As a practising Jew, I'd say that none of these are relevant questions. Jewish philosophers, the prime example being Maimonides, hold that the nature of God is above and beyond human comprehension, and that all attempts to describe God by humans are inadequate and insufficient with anthropomorphism assigned to God merely being a literary crutch to try and explain the ineffable. "Who created the Creator?" is nonsense as we are discussing a concept that human beings can never succeed in fully comprehending.

Which is a great thing to bear in mind when discussing God on the internet.

As a practising scientist, religion has no bearing on how I work or in the empirical understanding of the world around me. God, and whether there is a God, is irrelevant.

I think that it was also written that Satan wanted the same power as God and that was the reason for him being cast from Heaven onto Earth.

hold that the nature of God is above and beyond human comprehension, and that all attempts to describe God by humans are inadequate and insufficient

What this is saying to me is that Satan is in those words.

Holding down humanity to make them think that the nature of God or Creation is above and beyond human comprehension and that all attempts to describe Creation by humans are inadequate and insufficient.

Basically Satan is trying to dumb you down so that you never experience Creation other than looking at it because if humans move out in the Solar system and colonize planets then the power of Satan will have waned and he will lose his power over the gifts that God or Creation has imparted humanity with.

Basically FlyingLemons if I told you that you were dumb I would be trying to hold you down to keep you from achieving a reconnection with the Universe through space exploration and science because like Satan he wants the power of the words of creation like creation has but was taken away and now only desires to keep people on the Earth because he is jealous of the words of creation that are meant to carry the seed of humanity into space so that the power of Creation, which I call Genesia can be spread out into the Universe so that creation will be remembered.

I'm not calling you dumb by any means, but when a person does call you dumb they are using Satanic Verses of Miscreation to make you feel lesser of yourself so that you become part of their following that does not want to be intelligent but merely following a master who gives them a little bit in return for worshipping him.

 

[sojourner]

Neither Satan nor God exist in this forum.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Neither Satan nor God exist ...

Nothing after that was really necessary, was it?

 

[Silvercrest]

I think that it was also written that Satan wanted the same power as God and that was the reason for him being cast from Heaven onto Earth.

hold that the nature of God is above and beyond human comprehension, and that all attempts to describe God by humans are inadequate and insufficient

What this is saying to me is that Satan is in those words.

Holding down humanity to make them think that the nature of God or Creation is above and beyond human comprehension and that all attempts to describe Creation by humans are inadequate and insufficient.

Basically Satan is trying to dumb you down so that you never experience Creation other than looking at it because if humans move out in the Solar system and colonize planets then the power of Satan will have waned and he will lose his power over the gifts that God or Creation has imparted humanity with.

Basically FlyingLemons if I told you that you were dumb I would be trying to hold you down to keep you from achieving a reconnection with the Universe through space exploration and science because like Satan he wants the power of the words of creation like creation has but was taken away and now only desires to keep people on the Earth because he is jealous of the words of creation that are meant to carry the seed of humanity into space so that the power of Creation, which I call Genesia can be spread out into the Universe so that creation will be remembered.

I'm not calling you dumb by any means, but when a person does call you dumb they are using Satanic Verses of Miscreation to make you feel lesser of yourself so that you become part of their following that does not want to be intelligent but merely following a master who gives them a little bit in return for worshipping him.

Hello? Science? Anywhere?

 

[HIjol]

It occurs to me that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em

This post should probably be in the "Dry-Sci" room, but here goes:

If, in fact, Time is the Fire in Which We Burn
Then, there should be an ash left from the combustibles

If the ash acts as solids do in an Electric Universe
Then it should migrate and congeal throughout the cosmos

If it gathers and fills in the Geometries of Space
Then it could be the elusive Dark Matter and Grand Unifier

If the creator is also burned in the Fire of Time
Then the creator is as we are.

If Time Fire burns all
Then the Prophet Carl was right, "We Are Made of Starstuff"

Thank you all!
My T-Shirts, Coffee mugs and new book, "You Can Be a Dry-Sci Guy" will be available in the lobby.

 

[{ Emilia }]

And with HIjol's latest entry this thread has officially jumped the shark.