I like it and I think it is futuristic.
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A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movie?
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Re: A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movi
I'm a bigger fan of this possible bridge concept:
http://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/images/bridges/large/cresent-bridge.JPG
I'm a bigger fan of this possible bridge concept:
http://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/images/bridges/large/cresent-bridge.JPG
Re: A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movi
Not a huge fan of the Phase II bridge concept (which later evolved into the TMP bridge). The white walls, lack of color... it's so damned vanilla and boring. And it screams 1970s!
Granted, I don't want a complete re-creation of the TOS bridge, either. That just has TOO MUCH color in my book and looks equally unrealistic.
Take the TOS bridge and perhaps the bridge from ENT and throw them into a blender, and maybe add in a few completely new elements just to keep it fresh. Despite my feelings towards ENT as a series, the bridge design for the NX-01 just works. The metallic/bare-bones look, the LCD displays, the push-buttons... all nicely wrapped up in a way that looks futuristic to the audience but is more primitive than 24th century Trek.
Not a huge fan of the Phase II bridge concept (which later evolved into the TMP bridge). The white walls, lack of color... it's so damned vanilla and boring. And it screams 1970s!
Granted, I don't want a complete re-creation of the TOS bridge, either. That just has TOO MUCH color in my book and looks equally unrealistic.
Take the TOS bridge and perhaps the bridge from ENT and throw them into a blender, and maybe add in a few completely new elements just to keep it fresh. Despite my feelings towards ENT as a series, the bridge design for the NX-01 just works. The metallic/bare-bones look, the LCD displays, the push-buttons... all nicely wrapped up in a way that looks futuristic to the audience but is more primitive than 24th century Trek.
Re: A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movi
Yeah, that's my thoughts. The color scheme for the Cage Enterprise works well too. I would make it a combination of the two. The design of the Enterprise's bridge is one of the best, imo, and I wouldn't change it no matter what. Things like colors and appearance of control panels, on the other hand, should be changed to make it look like a modern movie.
Yeah, that's my thoughts. The color scheme for the Cage Enterprise works well too. I would make it a combination of the two. The design of the Enterprise's bridge is one of the best, imo, and I wouldn't change it no matter what. Things like colors and appearance of control panels, on the other hand, should be changed to make it look like a modern movie.
Re: A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movi
Go with this design dammit!!
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3259/thecage403kk3.jpg
Go with this design dammit!!
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3259/thecage403kk3.jpg
Re: A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movi
The way to look at any of this... the ship, the sets, the costumes, the props... is to pretend that there is such a thing as the REAL version of these things, and that what we saw in TOS was the best approximation of those "real" things that was possible with the technology and budget available at the time. And today, that we'll still be seeing an APPROXIMATION of some "real" designs, but ideally coming SLIGHTLY closer to being true approximations of "real 23rd century design."
This allows improvement where necessary without requiring tossing out of any significant or key design elements.
Everything I'e seen so far leads me to conclude that this is exactly what's going on.
But there ARE other starfleet ships in this film. And there are atmospheric-capable ships, too... not necessarily Starfleet ones, though.
And there is NO reason to say that other starfleet ships must look just like the 1701.
Suppose, for instance... and I'm being very hypothetical here... that Lieutenant Commander James Tiberius Kirk is commanding a mid-sized destroyer-type starship... just to pick a name, let's call her the Hephastus. A crew of maybe 80, primarily a warship/patrol vessel. Limited landing capacity... no separation capacity. But definitely of the same design lineage as the Enterprise we know.
And suppose that someone is shown "Kirk's ship" and that person, with a clear predisposition to expect to see the 1701, sees this. They assume, inevitably that they're seeing Enterprise. But they're not.
I'm not sayin' that this is the case... you'll have to wait and see next fall... or whenever pictures get published... but I'm just predicting.
The OTHER starfleet ships won't look very much like Enterprise, but they'll be in the same family.
Hell, there might even be a shuttle with wings and with articulated engine nacelles. Which, by the way, isn't a NEW concept... see this shuttle of my own creation:
FYI, I'm not saying that they're using anything of mine. Just saying that it's been done before. Wings and articulated nacelles at the shoulders. Hmmm...
I've never seen THAT picture before... obviously a publicity shot taken with the bridge's "wild segments" in... confused... arrangement. But yeah...
The way to look at any of this... the ship, the sets, the costumes, the props... is to pretend that there is such a thing as the REAL version of these things, and that what we saw in TOS was the best approximation of those "real" things that was possible with the technology and budget available at the time. And today, that we'll still be seeing an APPROXIMATION of some "real" designs, but ideally coming SLIGHTLY closer to being true approximations of "real 23rd century design."
This allows improvement where necessary without requiring tossing out of any significant or key design elements.
Everything I'e seen so far leads me to conclude that this is exactly what's going on.
But there ARE other starfleet ships in this film. And there are atmospheric-capable ships, too... not necessarily Starfleet ones, though.
And there is NO reason to say that other starfleet ships must look just like the 1701.Suppose, for instance... and I'm being very hypothetical here... that Lieutenant Commander James Tiberius Kirk is commanding a mid-sized destroyer-type starship... just to pick a name, let's call her the Hephastus. A crew of maybe 80, primarily a warship/patrol vessel. Limited landing capacity... no separation capacity. But definitely of the same design lineage as the Enterprise we know.
And suppose that someone is shown "Kirk's ship" and that person, with a clear predisposition to expect to see the 1701, sees this. They assume, inevitably that they're seeing Enterprise. But they're not.
I'm not sayin' that this is the case... you'll have to wait and see next fall... or whenever pictures get published... but I'm just predicting.
The OTHER starfleet ships won't look very much like Enterprise, but they'll be in the same family.
Hell, there might even be a shuttle with wings and with articulated engine nacelles. Which, by the way, isn't a NEW concept... see this shuttle of my own creation:
FYI, I'm not saying that they're using anything of mine. Just saying that it's been done before. Wings and articulated nacelles at the shoulders. Hmmm...
You are correct, that is indeed the bridge concept for the Enterprise that was to be used in the Phase II series, if it had gone ahead. Elements of that design did get utilized in ST:TMP (the ceiling dome, for example).
Yeah, it IS retro-70s, but honestly, I don't think it's that bad of a design, folks. It was a natural extension of the 60s bridge.
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I think the Golden Gate Bridge is better.
That Phase II bridge is just awful. It looks like a really bad disco that nobody went to.
Re: A possible Bridge Concept for the Enterprise in the Movi
"It was a natural extension of the 60s bridge."
The Star Trek V The Final Frontier's bridge was a natural extension of the Cage, and No Man bridges.
"It was a natural extension of the 60s bridge."
The Star Trek V The Final Frontier's bridge was a natural extension of the Cage, and No Man bridges.
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