And Lieutenant Charlene Masters!
Is that a behind the scenes shot? She wore blue in the finished episode.
A New Respect....
- Thread starter Spock's Barber
- Start date
And Lieutenant Charlene Masters!
Is that a behind the scenes shot? She wore blue in the finished episode.
Is that a behind the scenes shot? She wore blue in the finished episode.[/QUOTE]And Lieutenant Charlene Masters!
Nope. Something I put together.
Now this is the kind of fix I wish TOS-R had done!
And Lieutenant Charlene Masters!
Definitely a Photoshop job! Her outfit was blue, but some mild fringing aside it's an excellent job - the red hue did give me a double-take. And now I've got an idea...
Edit: question answered above. Very nifty wardrobe fix. I'll bet they put her in blue to distinguish her from Uhura. Two women don't like to appear in identical dresses.
One should leave the critical task of the re-amplifying/re-energizing of dilithium crystals to the Science experts, not those ham-fisted Engineering buffoons. 
Kirk called her "lieutenant", so, she should be disciplined for her incorrect rank on her uniform. I suspect that she received a recent promotion, but she didn't want to show off her new superior standing around her underling friends in the rec room. (Yikes, I'm starting to sound like @Timo .)
Kirk called her "lieutenant", so, she should be disciplined for her incorrect rank on her uniform. I suspect that she received a recent promotion, but she didn't want to show off her new superior standing around her underling friends in the rec room. (Yikes, I'm starting to sound like @Timo .)
I really like this thread, but when I watch one of the episodes I don't like, it makes me angry that there's so much good stuff trapped within the "klunker" in question.
I like how we all love the show but all seem to have different "don't like" lists.
And for my part, my don't like list has been shrinking.
Plato's was there and I really didn't look forward to seeing it, but my main objection was the Kironide superpowers that Dr. McCoy cooks up for Kirk and Spock. My "how can he do that here and not every other episode they should have these powers" mind couldn't suspend disbelief and I neglected to pay attention to all of the great scenes with Spock dealing with his anger and Kirk's interactions with Alexander. But several of the posters here pointed out it's only that particular planet that the effect occurs, now (sorry JB!) it's not only on my skip list, I'd say it's around the lower middle of the pack.
Phaser Two has given me new insight into Wink of an Eye, and I really don't skip that one anymore because I just couldn't accept that those people were just physically moving so fast and not burning up from air friction and causing force 12 winds when they passed by or remained invisible standing still.
BTW, back when I was watching these on WPIX and WPHL weekdays and WVIA Saturday nights, I didn't skip any of them.
I like how we all love the show but all seem to have different "don't like" lists.
And for my part, my don't like list has been shrinking.
Plato's was there and I really didn't look forward to seeing it, but my main objection was the Kironide superpowers that Dr. McCoy cooks up for Kirk and Spock. My "how can he do that here and not every other episode they should have these powers" mind couldn't suspend disbelief and I neglected to pay attention to all of the great scenes with Spock dealing with his anger and Kirk's interactions with Alexander. But several of the posters here pointed out it's only that particular planet that the effect occurs, now (sorry JB!) it's not only on my skip list, I'd say it's around the lower middle of the pack.
Phaser Two has given me new insight into Wink of an Eye, and I really don't skip that one anymore because I just couldn't accept that those people were just physically moving so fast and not burning up from air friction and causing force 12 winds when they passed by or remained invisible standing still.
BTW, back when I was watching these on WPIX and WPHL weekdays and WVIA Saturday nights, I didn't skip any of them.
Mission accomplished! 
That doesn't really bother me. I suspect that half the time they just gave guest actors uniforms based on whatever fit the best or whichever color looked best on them, and accuracy of the uniform was a distant second consideration.
I quite like "Wink of an Eye." I think it's one of the better third season episodes. I can forgive the friction thing and stuff like that. The only thing that really bothers me is that they have to leave most of the Enterprise's doors open for the episode to work at all.
Missing stripes might be similar to missing pips in the TNG era: in-universe, the officers themselves just fuck it up when dressing up in the morning. That is, the uniforms could emerge from the fabricator without rank braid as a default, and the user would slip the braid on like a rubber band. (It's always a good idea to pretend the fictional universe works just like studio reality, making "mistakes" acceptable in in-universe terms, too!)
It's a busy day for Masters, so she can't easily slip back to her cabin to correct her mistake. That Kirk doesn't cry "Why you little...!" and try and strangle Masters for her sloppiness is simply due to Kirk never as much as casting a look in her direction. In their one joint scene in the Briefing Room, Kirk has his eyes and hands full with the raving Lazarus.
Timo Saloniemi
It's a busy day for Masters, so she can't easily slip back to her cabin to correct her mistake. That Kirk doesn't cry "Why you little...!" and try and strangle Masters for her sloppiness is simply due to Kirk never as much as casting a look in her direction. In their one joint scene in the Briefing Room, Kirk has his eyes and hands full with the raving Lazarus.
Timo Saloniemi
Lt.Masters looks better in red and it would have solved an annoying dilemma of uniform!!!
JB
JB
Maybe Masters came to Engineering by way of the High Energy Physics dept. The blue dress is her way of saying, "Yes, I'm in Engineering now, but I'm smarter than the guy who's just an engineer." It's a Sheldon Cooper thing. She wants her intellectual credentials on display.
Maybe....
JB
JB
This thread makes me what to ask the question, "How do the individual people on the Enterprise get their uniforms?"
Not the costuming department picking one to fit the actor/actress and forgetting to sew the right braid on. I mean in this setting how do people get their uniforms for their shift?
I've read somewhere that they recycle them and there's no "laundry" as we know it, they dispose of the clothes and new ones are made daily (or even more frequently) from the basic material their grown from. They said it's some kind of algae, I think, from TAS The Terratin Incident, I think. But even if they are a cotton wool blend, do they break it down and remake it rather that just wash them? And then those braids are made to order by the user, maybe they have one of those little square tapes they stick in a slot for their proper uniform based on their currently assigned duty like they get their chicken sandwiches and chicken soup.
Not the costuming department picking one to fit the actor/actress and forgetting to sew the right braid on. I mean in this setting how do people get their uniforms for their shift?
I've read somewhere that they recycle them and there's no "laundry" as we know it, they dispose of the clothes and new ones are made daily (or even more frequently) from the basic material their grown from. They said it's some kind of algae, I think, from TAS The Terratin Incident, I think. But even if they are a cotton wool blend, do they break it down and remake it rather that just wash them? And then those braids are made to order by the user, maybe they have one of those little square tapes they stick in a slot for their proper uniform based on their currently assigned duty like they get their chicken sandwiches and chicken soup.
It was one of the first, if not the first, of system failures the ship started to experience almost immediately after the landing party beamed up.
We have a fair deal of evidence from different sources. Does it fit together? In in-universe chronological order:
- ENT has Tucker needing to check with the quartermaster to get his uniform's ship badge updated when he transfers to the Columbia. The heroes are also seen applying their rank pips by hand.
- DSC shows uniforms being created out of thin air in a machine. The ones we see created up close lack rank insignia, although those are in a separate badge and additionally the wearer isn't even entitled to rank at that point.
- TOS shows uniforms being stored in closets and arranged on the bed for the day's duties; occasionally, the uniforms are missing the chest badges. Also, McCoy's Nazi boots were (poorly) custom-fitted by the computer, although we don't learn how the computer design translated into an actual boot.
- TAS has the dialogue about the uniforms being made of "algae-based xenylon", without delving into how or when the making happens. Also, Kirk supposedly routinely picks his clean uniform from "the service chute" where the witty computer now has manipulated it into having a bit of decorative text.
- TUC has the crew raid clothes closets and sort out a pile of dirty uniforms in search of blood stains, in a facility full of chutes that appear dedicated to bringing those uniforms to that facility.
- TNG has full replicators. OTOH, TNG also has the heroes storing their rank pips separately, and applying them by hand, a theme that extends to flashbacks and all the other late 24th century spinoffs.
- DS9 has Garak sewing and acknowledging the concept of laundry, and Starfleet heroes using his sartorial services for their uniform needs on occasion. Might be only on special occasion, though.
Basically, then, there's room for human error at certain stages, in addition to the computer on occasion being fallible, too.
Timo Saloniemi
For the accelerated scenes in Wink of an Eye, should the lighting have been different? Darker? Shifted in color? The speed of light would seem “slower” relative to a Scalosian’s accelerated point of view. We do get a Batman-1966 style camera tilt in some of those scenes.
I doubt the speed differential should amount to any observable frequency shift yet...
In general, "light being different" is a thing a TV show can skip showing easily enough. The human eye is almost infinitely adaptable, and in fact basically has difficulty telling whether it's night or day unless there are external cues: dark will appear "bright enough" to those in the dark as long as there is enough light to see by. Thus, a night scene where the audience sees all (indeed a scene filmed in daylight using the "nuit américaine" filtering) is perfectly acceptable also from the in-universe, character point of view.
I also have no difficulty accepting that the Mirror Universe should be a literally darker place, say, despite what we saw. The regular characters' eyes would quickly adapt and stay adapted, and thus be able to appreciate Spock's goatee or Moreau's oiled traps without noticing anything amiss.
Timo Saloniemi
In general, "light being different" is a thing a TV show can skip showing easily enough. The human eye is almost infinitely adaptable, and in fact basically has difficulty telling whether it's night or day unless there are external cues: dark will appear "bright enough" to those in the dark as long as there is enough light to see by. Thus, a night scene where the audience sees all (indeed a scene filmed in daylight using the "nuit américaine" filtering) is perfectly acceptable also from the in-universe, character point of view.
I also have no difficulty accepting that the Mirror Universe should be a literally darker place, say, despite what we saw. The regular characters' eyes would quickly adapt and stay adapted, and thus be able to appreciate Spock's goatee or Moreau's oiled traps without noticing anything amiss.
Timo Saloniemi
Miri was the show. I had a love affair with Yeoman Rand. But when she told Kirk about this. I was horrified (until the end of the show)
Tho Kirk did not notice, I sure did.
Tho Kirk did not notice, I sure did.
Similar threads
