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A-holes of SCIFI

The ENTIRE government we saw in Starship Troopers: If you're not in the millitary, you have no rights. .... And being in the millitary gives you all these political rights and so on....yet the life expectancy of the typical Starship Trooper, upon leaving for the front, can be measured within weeks, if not days....there's hardly anyone left to benefit from those 'rights'.
Not to start a Starship Troopers debate, or a film vs. novel thing, but practically everything here is wrong.

Quite.

Look at Rico's family, for one thing. They seem like people with 'no rights'?

And remember what Raszcak said to Rico at the prom..."Figuring things out for yourself is the only freedom anybody really has. USE that freedom." :vulcan:
 
Well, I wasnt suggesting a direct corrolation, I was just attributing her changing attitudes to life experience. I just thought it was a neat coincidence.

But you know...that isn't half bad. And it would make sense on Planet Cordelia.

:D
 
Gaius Baltar on (the new) Battlestar Galactica. He sold out humanity for a piece of Tricia Helfer poon-tang.
Not exactly... He thought he was only selling out the legitimacy and equality of the next year's tender for the Defense System software, for a piece of Six's poon-tang and a piece of her help with "his" computer program (more of the latter than the former, since he already got the former).

Not that he isn't an asshole, anyway.

But BSG is really full of lovable or less lovable assholes. Tigh, Starbuck, Roslin, Zarek, Lee, occasionally Adama, not to mention Cain, Cavil/One, Garner... and the most disgusting characters ever - those two rapists from Pegasus (known as "Sunshine Boys") :klingon::scream: :mad:

I agree with Owen from Torchwood and Rimmer from Red Dwarf (and Cartman, if South Park qualifies as SF/fantasy...)... but the latter two really are really intended as 'assholes' by definition (kinda like Barclay and Hudson for wimps).

For people who were not intended to be seen as assholes, but come off as such: definitely Jack and Kate on Lost.
 
Avon and Servalan from Blake's 7. Avon was technically one of the good guys but was selfish prick,
A fair (and even kind) assessment. Let's hope that they don't make him too likeable when that remake begins. He should be Gaius Baltar sans charisma or residual morals.
 
kes7 said:
Zorg from The Fifth Element came immediately to mind. I enjoyed the character, but he was an a-hole.

Which he acknowledged to Father Cornelius after having his life saved by the Father. Even seemed to show a little regret about it. I love that scene for that and how, as Zorg returns to his desk, he slows down. I realize that is partly so that the circular window will match the circular evil-thing in the fade-to bit, but I don't think it's completely for that reason.

I LOVE this movie.
 
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