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A future trek show, seeded in ENT
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Heh, Archer/Bakula was my main issue with Enterprise. I enjoyed S3 and S4 despite him.
But, yea, I agree with Vorta Claus, redo Enterprise like Manny Coto did S4. S4 under Manny Coto was what I was expecting when Enterprise was originally announced. Sadly, they stumbled through two years of Mediocrity, before they started hitting soem of the right notes, and by then, the audience was already leaving, so Manny Coto didn't have much of a chance, despite hitting it out of the park most of his season.
Except the characters got strangled in the process due to the changing and differing conceptions of the storyline. Trek needs a singular approach again and not Braga's and Coto wasn't original enough to put it bluntly. It would be hard to find someone with clout to wrangle and shape the Star Trek premise into submission with a unique approach.
The characters would be all different. If Bakula comes back, he would need to be recast in a different role. I don't think he's the Starfleet type as an actor, so I'm thinking civilian? I'd also like to see Trinneer and Billingsley back.
What bothered me about Bakula (and I loved him in QL) is that he always seemed, to me, to be so uncomfortable. He just seemed stiff. It was not until about S3 when he starts to loosen up and go with it. S3 and S4 are better, and his acting is a piece of that.
I would like to see the Earth-Romulan war, where they don't know what the enemy even looks like, etc. Threatening Earth is good for writers, possibly good for viewers.
There is also the ENT-TOS time period, which, to my reckoning, is something like very early 2162 to, what, 22-something or other?
- The technology improves - we go from speed limit Warp 5 to speed limit Warp 9 or so.
- Weapons improve - big honkin' phaser banks replace the little stuff the NX-01 had.
- The Coalition of Planets becomes the Federation. Diplomacy and friendship are emphasized.
- More species are the subjects of First Contact.
- The Prime Directive is made, and (hopefully) improved. I would expect to see even more degrees of fumbling, like in Cogenitor and Dear Doctor, etc.
- Our relationship with the Vulcans changes. If we go with JJ-verse, then Vulcan is destroyed and the shoe is rather uncomfortably on the other foot. Even if we don't, things are still different, as humans have more experience in space and would rely less on Vulcan charts, databases, advice - and warnings and prejudices, as well.
- Fashions change, women's roles change - I recognize that ENT and TOS are very much the product of the eras they were produced, but why not weave that into the collective mythos of the show? There's a big difference between Ace Linguist Hoshi Sato in a uniform that looks like a garage mechanic's jumpsuit versus Ace Communications Officer Nyota Uhura in a uniform that looks like a 1967 go-go dancer.
I would like to see the Earth-Romulan war, where they don't know what the enemy even looks like, etc. Threatening Earth is good for writers, possibly good for viewers.
There is also the ENT-TOS time period, which, to my reckoning, is something like very early 2162 to, what, 22-something or other?
- The technology improves - we go from speed limit Warp 5 to speed limit Warp 9 or so.
- Weapons improve - big honkin' phaser banks replace the little stuff the NX-01 had.
- The Coalition of Planets becomes the Federation. Diplomacy and friendship are emphasized.
- More species are the subjects of First Contact.
- The Prime Directive is made, and (hopefully) improved. I would expect to see even more degrees of fumbling, like in Cogenitor and Dear Doctor, etc.
- Our relationship with the Vulcans changes. If we go with JJ-verse, then Vulcan is destroyed and the shoe is rather uncomfortably on the other foot. Even if we don't, things are still different, as humans have more experience in space and would rely less on Vulcan charts, databases, advice - and warnings and prejudices, as well.
- Fashions change, women's roles change - I recognize that ENT and TOS are very much the product of the eras they were produced, but why not weave that into the collective mythos of the show? There's a big difference between Ace Linguist Hoshi Sato in a uniform that looks like a garage mechanic's jumpsuit versus Ace Communications Officer Nyota Uhura in a uniform that looks like a 1967 go-go dancer.
I want to see enterprise return as a continuation of the current series. The last episode happened years in the future so many other things could happen between the last 2 episodes of enterprise. I want to see the Earth-Romulan war!!. Also like to see what really happened to the xindi. I like the idea that the reptilians become the saurian!
I would also like to see the Enterprise series continued as is with the original cast. I realize its been almost seven years now since the last season and that the chances of it getting revived are slim. I've been a ST fan since TOS but over the years I've really come to think that Enterprise was the best of all of them.
I realize it had some bad writing and runs of bad episodes period, but I really liked the crew and the ship. The ship had a sense of fragility and limitations to it that you just don't see in any of the sanitized, omniscient technology themes of the other ST series...
Several issues with the first four seasons could be done away with if the show were continued (the overbearing nature of the Vulcan influence, the friction among the crew in certain respects could be played down, Trip could be brought back from the dead...)
Unfortunately, negative fan responses and studio bean counter greed (I agree with Billingsley on this one) tend to put us supporting fans in a different world from the reality of what science fiction series get made and supported.
Also, the latest Trek movie/s have now pushed all series prospects aside and totally invalidated the timeline of all the Trek series. So that's a significant roadblock as well to a revival of Enterprise.
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So many good science fiction series get killed off before their time in the US, Firefly, probably Terra Nova now too (though Spielberg promised it would have a dedicated story-plot run like Babylon 5 did, that's not likely to hold up). Falling Skies was good but they put it on hiatus for so long, what chance does it really have of surviving beyond a second season if they really make one?
I bring these other series up because they have such small fan followings in comparison to Star Trek, and if the fans can't get Star Trek Enterprise brought back, there's no way the studio execs are going to listen to us about "lesser" series either.
I realize also that there's a great amount of Trek fatigue even among the fan base. The concept really has been beaten to death in many ways. But I believe Enterprise was fresh and hopeful and had a lot of exploring to do yet.
I'd really like to see Hoshi and T'Pol back in uniform and see a more mellowed version of Archer at the helm...
Just wishful thinking I guess.
I did a blog search on technorati.com today (supposedly lists over 75 million blogs worldwide) for one blog dedicated exclusively to Star Trek Enterprise, and there is not a one.
I don't expect any more ENT to be made but I would love to see it a living part of any series we do get. Guest stars, references.. if we get a JJ series of TOS era it is really the only references they have to work with (heh heh) 
That's one of the things I loved about it. I want the first starship to look more utilitarian than TNG's Hilton class. I felt like it really added to the frontier feel they wanted to convey.
That's one of the things I loved about it. I want the first starship to look more utilitarian than TNG's Hilton class. I felt like it really added to the frontier feel they wanted to convey.
I don't expect any more ENT to be made but I would love to see it a living part of any series we do get. Guest stars, references.. if we get a JJ series of TOS era it is really the only references they have to work with (heh heh)
That's one of the things I loved about it. I want the first starship to look more utilitarian than TNG's Hilton class. I felt like it really added to the frontier feel they wanted to convey.
I also like the frontier look as you put it, of the ENT ship. It had more of a realistic connection to the evolution of technology than the hypersanitized future versions of the Enterprise where you took everything with you when you left home, your family, your fantasies (holodeck), wall to wall carpeting and crew quarters that looked like luxury cabins on a cruise liner...
The NX-01 is my favorite ship, both the outside which is gorgeous and the interior. I was never a shipper (lol) until I the NX-01.
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