A few questions about Heroes *NO SPOILERS PLEASE*

[ZeNd]

Let me just first start off by saying that I have only watched up to the end of S1, if you give any spoilers beyond that I will kill you.

So yeah, this show is pretty awesome so far, best show I have seen in awhile but it is kinda bothering me that this show has a few gaping plot holes and oddities.

1. First of all, the most obvious one, why doesn't Hiro just find out where Sylar lives/works (he could just easily get the information from Mohinders list), and go back and time and kill him before he starts stealing any powers? Problem solved.

2. Peter has had contact with Hiro and it seems like he has the power to stop time like Hiro. He should also have the ability to time travel right? Why doesn't Peter himself go back in time and kill Sylar before he gets his powers?

3. At the end of S1 when Peter lost control of Ted's ability why did Nathan need to sacrafice himself to save NYC? Why wouldn't Peter just fly himself away from the city? Or why didn't Claire (or anybody else for that matter) just shoot him in the back of the head like originally planned?

There were more random plot holes but these are the major ones for now. More to follow up.

 

[Roshi]

If you enjoyed Heroes Season 1, then stop right there, right now. To quote Dr Zaius in Planet of the Apes, "you may not like what you'll find"...

 

[Vendikarr]

Let me just first start off by saying that I have only watched up to the end of S1, if you give any spoilers beyond that I will kill you.

So yeah, this show is pretty awesome so far, best show I have seen in awhile but it is kinda bothering me that this show has a few gaping plot holes and oddities.

1. First of all, the most obvious one, why doesn't Hiro just find out where Sylar lives/works (he could just easily get the information from Mohinders list), and go back and time and kill him before he starts stealing any powers? Problem solved.

Hiro has a very 'silver age' attitude. Heroe's don't kill.

2. Peter has had contact with Hiro and it seems like he has the power to stop time like Hiro. He should also have the ability to time travel right? Why doesn't Peter himself go back in time and kill Sylar before he gets his powers?

Because Peter is a moron. He gets dumber as the show goes along.

3. At the end of S1 when Peter lost control of Ted's ability why did Nathan need to sacrafice himself to save NYC? Why wouldn't Peter just fly himself away from the city? Or why didn't Claire (or anybody else for that matter) just shoot him in the back of the head like originally planned?

There were more random plot holes but these are the major ones for now. More to follow up.

No one knows, except they needed Nathan to do that to set up his storyline for the next volume.

 

[ZeNd]

If you enjoyed Heroes Season 1, then stop right there, right now. To quote Dr Zaius in Planet of the Apes, "you may not like what you'll find"...

So S1 is good and the rest of the series is ass? Or just more/bigger plot holes?

 

[Hermiod]

No one knows, except they needed Nathan to do that to set up his storyline for the next volume.

Not quite, Peter's inability to fly was explained in the next season.

 

[Roshi]

^Vendikarr said it better than me. As the show goes along, the one thing every character shares with each other is Dumbility™. One stupid choice after another.

 

[ZeNd]

Hiro has a very 'silver age' attitude. Heroe's don't kill.

Maybe that was true in the begining but it seemed like by the end of S1 is was very ready to kill Sylar. Doesn't seem logical that once he worked up the nerve that he would get smart and go back in time to kill Sylar before he became damn near invincible?

Because Peter is a moron. He gets dumber as the show goes along.

Thats too bad, I really liked his character. He seemingly went from a pansy to hardcore. Very dissapointing if he character gets dumb.

No one knows, except they needed Nathan to do that to set up his storyline for the next volume.

Meh thats kinda dumb, I was hoping I was overlooking something there.

 

[Hermiod]

Meh thats kinda dumb, I was hoping I was overlooking something there.

You are. You didn't want season two spoilers so I didn't post any.

 

[paudemge]

No one knows, except they needed Nathan to do that to set up his storyline for the next volume.

Not quite, Peter's inability to fly was explained in the next season.

Actually I didn't think it was for a set up of next season but his redemption for the first season.

Also Hiro knows he can't go back in time and change things, he tried that already

 

[Temis the Vorta]

1. First of all, the most obvious one, why doesn't Hiro just find out where Sylar lives/works (he could just easily get the information from Mohinders list), and go back and time and kill him before he starts stealing any powers? Problem solved.

2. Peter has had contact with Hiro and it seems like he has the power to stop time like Hiro. He should also have the ability to time travel right? Why doesn't Peter himself go back in time and kill Sylar before he gets his powers?

The answer to both is the same: because that would make things too easy and the writers need to make the characters clueless and stupid, and not really think about what they could do with their powers, in order to have a story at all.

And if that sounds like a bitter comment by someone who has sat thru S2 and S3 to date, it is. No spoilers, but here's a hopeful tidbit, I think the writers are finally realizing where they've gone wrong with the whole Idiotically Powerful Powers thing.

3. At the end of S1 when Peter lost control of Ted's ability why did Nathan need to sacrafice himself to save NYC? Why wouldn't Peter just fly himself away from the city? Or why didn't Claire (or anybody else for that matter) just shoot him in the back of the head like originally planned?

Peter blurted out something about not being able to control his powers, so presumably he wasn't able to fly and keep from exploding at the same time. In story terms, Nathan needed to have something "big" to do, to prove that he had changed.

Claire didn't shoot him in the back of the head becasuse a) she didn't want to hurt him or b) she didn't want to kill him. At that point, the logic was very iffy exactly what happens when a healer gets shot in the back of the head. What if the bullet goes through? If it lodges in the base of his skull, can they dig it out and he pops back to life?

I won't give ya any spoilers regarding whether they've cleared up the logic by now...

 

[Caretaker]

If you enjoyed Heroes Season 1, then stop right there, right now. To quote Dr Zaius in Planet of the Apes, "you may not like what you'll find"...

So S1 is good and the rest of the series is ass? Or just more/bigger plot holes?

Well, season two isn't really that bad, in retrospect. But, like season one, the viewer needs to have patience and let each storyline develop. The dumbing doesn't really happen until season three.

I think you'd be fine watching season two. But then skip volume three (the first half of season three). The jury's still out on the second half of season three.

 

[od0_ital]

3. At the end of S1 when Peter lost control of Ted's ability why did Nathan need to sacrafice himself to save NYC? Why wouldn't Peter just fly himself away from the city?

While Peter has multiple abilities, he's never been shown to use more than one of them at a time. Claude pushes him off a roof to get him to fly, Peter becomes invulnerable, instead. Go figure.

So, with Ted's ability takin' Peter over he couldn't fly - he was stuck where he was in Kirby Plaza.

Sylar, though, obviously can access more than one ability at a time, or at least, has way better control of the abilities he's acquired (part of his own ability to see how things work, rather than Peter's ability to be a sponge for other abilities).

 

[Locutus of Bored]

If you enjoyed Heroes Season 1, then stop right there, right now. To quote Dr Zaius in Planet of the Apes, "you may not like what you'll find"...

So S1 is good and the rest of the series is ass?

A giant superpowered ass with the ability to make people act completely irrationally and prevent any realistic character growth, hellbent on nothing less than the destruction of everything you loved about Season One.

 

[Chris3123]

I think you'd be fine watching season two. But then skip volume three (the first half of season three). The jury's still out on the second half of season three.

Or you can watch it all, and form your own opinion. Because if you skip anything, you might end up missing something you might have enjoyed.

 

[Dream]

Season 2 isn't horrible but it takes FOREVER to get going. It takes half the season until important things start happening. Many of the main characters are given dreadful storylines and one of the most annoying characters in the series first appears. Every time that character appears you want to tell them to shut up.

If I ever rewatch season two in the future I would skip the first seven episodes and start right with episode eight. The writers should have started the season with episode eight instead of putting it off for so long.

Season three, or rather the first half. Well to put it lightly it's kind of a mess. Probably in respond to the negative reaction to season two the writers had way too many storylines. Anything that seems important in the story is usually forgotten about a few episodes later.

Sadly there haven't been any classic episodes after season one. Nothing really compares to Company Man or Five Years Gone.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The dumbing doesn't really happen until season three.

Not for Peter or Hiro. The Dumb Fever spreads in S3 but it started with S2.

While Peter has multiple abilities, he's never been shown to use more than one of them at a time. Claude pushes him off a roof to get him to fly, Peter becomes invulnerable, instead. Go figure.

I thought the logic was that Peter couldn't figure out how to fly, but healing happens without him willing it to happen.

I think you'd be fine watching season two. But then skip volume three (the first half of season three).

If S2 doesn't send you screaming from the room, the first half of S3 shouldn't be too unendurable. At least on an episode-to-episode basis, I thought S3 so far has been pretty fun and watchable. It's only when you think about it that the suckiness becomes apparent.

 

[ZeNd]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, I just started watching the first few episodes (I think I just finished the 3rd) of S2 and it seems great so far to me. The only characters I find annoying are those two mexicans. Maybe that's just because I don't even fully understand their ability yet it seems kinda weird/random.

Haven't really seen anybody do anything dumb yet.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Well I always thought series 2 was at its most dull between 3-7. 1, 2 and 8-11 were all fine.

As Temis said, the first half of season 3 is okay if you don't think about it too much, bar maybe 3 episodes towards the end. I personally loved episodes 1-6 and 11.

I'd stick with it at any rate - the worst that can happen is that you become bitterly disappointed and angry like a lot of us have done.

 

[Mr Light]

I didn't mind S2 at all, except for the wonder twins and Peter's amnesia. I think people had unrealistic expectations for it based on the ending of S1; they basically just went back to the beginning of S1 where nothing happened and nobody met.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Haven't really seen anybody do anything dumb yet.

Spoiler: Heroes S2 (early on)

Peter's gullibility in following around the Oirish thugs like a puppy was pretty damn stupid.

Stay tuned for worse things.