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A&E Taking Heat For Suspending 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson

Wow. A ratings-hungry cable channel made a largely empty public relations gesture just one week ago and now they've rescinded it?

[Jack Palance] Believe it.... or NOT. [/Jack Palance]
 
But, there is a difference between disagreeing with them and wanting them silenced.
Freedom-of-speech does NOT mean freedom-from-the-consequences-of-your-speech.

A person can espouse all of the stupid shit they want, but the people that disagree are free to call them out on it.
 
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I guess, after more than a week of this, I'm at the point where I don't think they will ever "get it." Those who support Phil Robertson will continue feeling that way and, sadly, in a way reinstating Phil will cause this to die out faster. I don't think they will ever change their minds, we will just have to wait until the majority of them die out for things to change.

When I wrote that last night, I was at the point where I realize, sadly, the best thing we can do is let these idiots say what they want so that the "battle lines," such as they are, are clearly defined. A&E suspending him probably benefited him more than hurt him, because those who agreed to him flocked to his side.

It's Chick-Fil-A all over again. They benefited from the outrage at their CEO's beliefs and all it did was get people to flock to them.

I'm of the opinion now that we should just let these guys talk, not because they shouldn't face consequences, but because the consequences seem to pale in comparison to the attention they get from supporters.

I think they realize they are on the losing side of history, so they are ferociously grasping at anything they can and they still have plenty of people who support them.

I'm beginning to think it's a PR strategy: Say something homophobic, wait for the outrage, steel up support from those who are like minded and suddenly instead of someone who eats at Chick-Fil-A ocassionally and may or may not buy Duck Dynasty paraphenalia, you have someone going to Chick-Fil-A frequently and buying tons of Duck Dynasty stuff because they feel they are supporting a cause by doing so.
 
The fact that an ignorant hillbilly is a bigot is hardly surprising. What bothers me is that half the country considers an ignorant, homophobic, racist hillbilly to be a national hero.

God I hate people.
 
The fact that an ignorant hillbilly is a bigot is hardly surprising. What bothers me is that half the country considers an ignorant, homophobic, racist hillbilly to be a national hero.

God I hate people.

That's why I got into medicine.
 
The fact that an ignorant hillbilly is a bigot is hardly surprising. What bothers me is that half the country considers an ignorant, homophobic, racist hillbilly to be a national hero.

God I hate people.
 
The fact that an ignorant hillbilly is a bigot is hardly surprising. What bothers me is that half the country considers an ignorant, homophobic, racist hillbilly to be a national hero.

God I hate people.

I just want to tell you good luck, we're all counting on you.
 
Now that there is a consensus, that the right had it's dog wagged, does any one in the right, while still believing in freedom of speech when it suits them, feel angry about being manipulated by rich people who are smarter than they are?

It's almost a fact that you can't be manipulated by someone stupider than you are, so don't get all righteous and uppity again.
 
Here's the bottom line:

He was suspended as a kneejerk reaction to what A&E thought would be market pressure to have him taken off, forgetting that the show appeals to a market segment that would be, at worst, indifferent to his comments. Being concerned that gays and urban liberals will stop watching duck dynasty is a little like fretting over Republicans boycotting Rachel Maddow. They were never and were never going to be the target audience in the first place.

They-and the gay lobbyists-also ignored that their star was an independently wealthy hillbilly that wasn't going to apologize for his beliefs. Nobody who lives the way that guy does is anything but in iconoclast.

And as far as advertisers go anyone advertising on duck dynasty has already figured out who the viewers are and whether they want to reach those viewers with their products. And again it isn't homosexuals or urban liberals

Poorly conceived suspension and poorly conceived boycott threat.
 
Nope. It was all about ginning up the outrage to inspire ratings and Christmas sales. And it worked damned well, since they danced like puppets on command.
 
Walmarts are probably laughing their corporate asses off as they calculate the revenue generated by the tons and tons of Duck Dynasty junk they've sold in the past week or so. From a marketing point of view, this controversy has been an absolute gold mine. If Americans are good at one thing above all others it's running in droves to buy crap when the mass media says it's hot stuff.
 
Here's the bottom line:

He was suspended as a kneejerk reaction to what A&E thought would be market pressure to have him taken off, forgetting that the show appeals to a market segment that would be, at worst, indifferent to his comments. Being concerned that gays and urban liberals will stop watching duck dynasty is a little like fretting over Republicans boycotting Rachel Maddow. They were never and were never going to be the target audience in the first place.

They-and the gay lobbyists-also ignored that their star was an independently wealthy hillbilly that wasn't going to apologize for his beliefs. Nobody who lives the way that guy does is anything but in iconoclast.

And as far as advertisers go anyone advertising on duck dynasty has already figured out who the viewers are and whether they want to reach those viewers with their products. And again it isn't homosexuals or urban liberals

Poorly conceived suspension and poorly conceived boycott threat.

I dunno, here's the thing even if it's a show no one watches people can still boycott the network and the advertisers. The network certainly doesn't want that and the advertisers are going to have a wider scope than just the audience of the show. I mean say if Ford advertised on the show (I really know who the sponsors were, just an example), now, sure, Ford advertised on the show because they felt the audience of the show was a demographic they wanted to reach. But Ford wants to reach other people beyond Duck Dynasty viewers and probably wouldn't like being associated with the show that has that kind of bad-press especially if there was an active boycott. More over advertisers will be less willing to pay a premium for ad space on a network with declining viewers due to a viewer boycott of other programming.

I'm not going to buy into the conspiracy theory that this was all done as a calculated attempt to boost ratings because it seems like a risky route to take on a show that was already getting good ratings in the first place. Why potentially mess up a good thing?

I think that the Religious Wackados of the country just "won" this fight because, unfortuantely, those who think the Bible is the absolute end-all, be-all authority on EVERYTHING above and beyond everything else whether you believe in it or not out number those of us who think The Bible is filled with good ideas but also has some bad ones and that it DOESN'T apply to everyone because God is kind of a dick to those people who don't meet His standards. Oh also that whole "Constitution" think that we all ARE beholden to.

Remember we're a country founded by Puritans, people who want to live in a magical land where everyone is just the personification of Adam and Eve and no one sins whatsoever. We all are straight and have missionary-position sex between two sheets with strategic holes in them with the lights off.

I guess it's not too much a surprise the Religious Right, the bigots, the homophobes and the racists won this fight. Because we must absolutely defend someone whose views, beliefs and ways are quickly becoming out-dated.

But it all comes back to hypocrisy of that Religious Right because of Phil there has spoken out against The Bible, Jesus, God, Christians or whoever the Religious Right would have done everything that could to shut this man up pretty much like they do to ANYONE who speaks out against The Bible and Christianity (see: "The War on Christmas.")
 
What frightens me more is that we're 31 pages in and there are still people whining about Phil's Constitutional Rights being violated by A&E even though it's been explained about a bazillion times.
 
What frightens me more is that we're 31 pages in and there are still people whining about Phil's Constitutional Rights being violated by A&E even though it's been explained about a bazillion times.

You assume there's a willingness to learn where there isn't.
 
Some assume freedom is absolute. Except for the people where it's not.

The conservatives up in arms about Phil being "silenced" are many of the same people who thought that the Dixie Chicks should have been tried for treason for saying they didn't like President Bush and agree with the Iraq War. "They're saying it in a time of war! They're emboldening our enemies! They've crossed a line!"

By that measuring stick, quite a few Republican politicians would have to be brought before a tribunal or banished to some remote wasteland for heaping pretty strong and vocal criticism on President Obama for his Afghanistan, Libya and Syria policies and saying some unkind things.
 
Really, I think Republicans need the donkey as their mascot since their the ass party. But, also, the old, slow, scared of tiny things elephant works for them too. How about a hybrid of an elephant and a donkey?
 
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