Time travel shenanigans got them there and that does not interest me at this point. Neither does the 28th century.
Spoilers A big hint about the finale/season 3 has dropped...
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Not fond of this rumor, but my guess is it's true. I think they're going to show the Temporal Cold War (my and other fans' least liked aspect of Enterprise) again, as Future Guy is from the 28th Century.
Future Guy is probably an insane Stamets or Tyler.
Sending Discovery to the future doesn't solve all canon problems at all. It makes less sense that Pike would just calmly go to his horrible future in Starfleet instead of going rogue doing everything he can to find Discovery. Spock never mentioning the mysterious sister who disappeared is even more jarring.
A mysterious disappeared sister was literally the whole basis for the X-Files, and to jump to not even being concerned enough to mention or try to find her? Not even from Amanda?
MCCOY: Mister Spock, you're the most cold-blooded man I've ever known.
SPOCK: Why, thank you, Doctor.
I don't think it is fair to toss something like that out. None of us know Bryan Fuller. Could simply be he is overly demanding of the studio, could be he is just a dick to work with.
Scares the fuck out of me. When you are writing "to win awards", it often comes off as dull and preachy.
I'd argue Season 2 has a lot more time travel shenanigans than this rumour.
So basically Discovery becomes it's own Kelvin-verse that never had any relevance to the Prime timeline. Somehow I doubt it as that would erase any leadup to a Pike show, which seems likely as they've built an Enterprise bridge.
It's the Picard series. So there you go.
I find that very unlikely.
Why would it erase Pike show? We'll just get Pike and the Enterprise without any knowledge of his time aboard Discovery. Spock never had a sister, never grew a neckbeard. It could work.
It's funny, all season 1 I thought this is where we were heading, and that the return from the MU would deposit them in the post-VOY future (and prisoner L'Rell must properly join the crew). That really would have addressed all the continuity issues, and I was so disappointed at the lousy ending we got instead of that.
This season, they've (mostly) done such an outstanding job of knitting themselves into the timeline and justifying their prequel status. Against all odds, they've totally won me over to that! So now I anticipate a possible time jump with dread, I haven't had my fill of what season 2 of Disco is offering yet. (Though if the plan is to have a Pike Enterprise show pick up the prequel mantel while Discovery moves on to different territory -- that would be amazing, sold!)
And if they think this'll get them out of continuity nit-picking -- good luck with that, team! This post made me realize...
...that all they'd really be doing is shifting the burden to the Picard show.
This season, they've (mostly) done such an outstanding job of knitting themselves into the timeline and justifying their prequel status. Against all odds, they've totally won me over to that! So now I anticipate a possible time jump with dread, I haven't had my fill of what season 2 of Disco is offering yet. (Though if the plan is to have a Pike Enterprise show pick up the prequel mantel while Discovery moves on to different territory -- that would be amazing, sold!)
And if they think this'll get them out of continuity nit-picking -- good luck with that, team! This post made me realize...
...that all they'd really be doing is shifting the burden to the Picard show.
A shift to the 28th century would be exciting, because it would give them a chance to do their own thing. Though space is really fucking big and they sure couldn't figure out how to do their own thing in the 23rd.
So, wherever or whenever they are going next season, I hope they stand on their own.
So, wherever or whenever they are going next season, I hope they stand on their own.
I liked how "Memory Serves" and "Valley" bridged "Cage" and "Menagerie" and made the latter more poignant, so they definitely have it in them. Seems like there are other tidbits from TOS that could be similarly mined.
While TOS is my favorite TV series, ever. I don't need to be constantly reminded of it. I really didn't find anything that made TOS more poignant? I got what Pike sacrificed when saving the cadets. I got the gulf that existed between Sarek and Spock.
I simply didn't need more explanations.
To be fair, a lot of people like those reminders. George Lucas made millions on 3 movies (and a tv show) built entirely on what were lines about offscreen events in his original ones.
I agree. Sucking off the teet of TOS was probably a brilliant business move. But there was nothing in Discovery that somehow changed my interpretations of events in TOS. I didn't need TOS rewritten or given meaning by people who never had any involvement in it.
I don't think they were that bad, especially compared to the recent Disney movies which are worse (with the exception of Rogue One).
The prequels didn't end my lifelong fandom of Star Wars. But 7 and 8 (and Rebels, to the point I haven't even watched a minute of Resistance) did, or more accurately made me realize I was a fan of the old "Legends" universe (which included the prequels) and not a fan of this new universe that Disney created from the skeleton of the old.
Honestly, I find the majority of the acclaimed Marvel films far worse than the prequels.
Why did you pick the only Disney Star Wars movie I outright said was good?
Those are the same critics that praised Avengers for having the exact same ending as the Phantom Menace right? And I live in a country where tons of wrongdoing is declared as "nothing illegal". I learn to follow what my own judgment tells me, not what other people say.
More like gibberish vs. gibberish.
I agree with you actually, although the Clone Wars did a fine job of making an enjoyable multi-season prequel show.
Although even that had hiccups, with "My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count" now coming at the end of a long series of duels where Dooku and Anakin fought every other week.
"I have been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku!"
"Yeah, I know. I mean, we've already fought more times than I can count Grievous."
I'm kinda bored with the idea of just pushing things into the future. Photon torpedoes aren't powerful enough? Let's make them Quantum Cutting Edge PROTON torpedoes with 92 launchers. Phasers not good enough with 72 emitters on the ship? Let's make them Plazers! Shields don't work against these enemies? Let's make ships have hull plating AND seven layers of adaptive mutating shields that also slice, dice and make julieanne fries. Instead of 42 decks on the Enterprise-D, it needs to have SEVENTY decks! Warp 9.95 isn't good enough? Now they can go Warp a gazillion. (And yes, I get with the spore drive is kinda the same thing. Not a HUGE fan of that either.)
I mean, okay, but at the same time, the ship will still get outgunned. The shields will still fall to [insert prcentage here]. They'll still be smaller than the baddie. And the ship will still move at the speed of the plot.
Its just silly.
I mean, okay, but at the same time, the ship will still get outgunned. The shields will still fall to [insert prcentage here]. They'll still be smaller than the baddie. And the ship will still move at the speed of the plot.
Its just silly.
