Transporters alone have already done that.
Spoilers A big hint about the finale/season 3 has dropped...
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Though not a great way to make friends.
True, although that wasn't the question.
I don't like having to raise this point again, but... just because it's possible to recreate the spore drive doesn't mean it necessarily will be recreated. By that logic, the fact that I have a one in 43 million chance of winning the Hungarian lottery means I'll definitely win a few million dollars at some point in my life. The development of the spore drive depended on contrived coincidences at every single step, starting from Stamets and Straal coming up with a theory about subspace-dwelling fungi, through the Glenn accidentally collecting spores in a way that lured a tardigrade there, the Discovery capturing it, Burnham accidentally observing the tardigrade getting agitated when the ship engaged a spore drive, then giving it a spore canister, all culminating in Stamets deciding to inject himself with tardigrade DNA... seriously, if the Cardassians or the Tholians manage to independently replicate everything they need without the unholy amounts of insane good luck Stamets & Co had, then by all means, let them have the spore drive because they've earned it. I just see no statistically significant chance of anyone recreating it in the 100+ years of history we've been following after TOS without having to use Stamets' research as a cheat sheet. And if we're worried about canon, then everything post-Nemesis is fair game anyway.
I'll say it again...
I find it a lot more entertaining and fun, to come up with reasons why something does or doesn't happen in the Trek Universe on my own, rather than tearing it apart because the producers of the story haven't chosen to expound upon a particularly annoying aspect of their tale.
But I guess that just means I'm a 'half-full' kinda guy rather than the other way around.
I find it a lot more entertaining and fun, to come up with reasons why something does or doesn't happen in the Trek Universe on my own, rather than tearing it apart because the producers of the story haven't chosen to expound upon a particularly annoying aspect of their tale.
But I guess that just means I'm a 'half-full' kinda guy rather than the other way around.
Well, there is that ridiculously strict ban on genetic tampering that might end spore drive use. They apparently don't even use genetic engineering for medicine, considering Augment blood is healing blood.
If they are already that strict, makes sense that it'd be banned. Still strange they don't even discuss it in Voyager though.
If they are already that strict, makes sense that it'd be banned. Still strange they don't even discuss it in Voyager though.
Can't discuss it if they don't know about it.
How do we know it wasn’t discussed during any of the 61,320 hours of the Voyager’s journey that didn’t make it onscreen?
If Starfleet decides to classify every spore drive-related material I highly doubt it could be simply accessed from any Federation starship and freely discussed at the Academy for everyone to learn about it.
The Klingons know about it too. I doubt they agreed to keep it a secret even if they don't know all the details. It's like inventing the wheel and walking everywhere for the next 120 years. Many have witnessed Spore technology working. Someone is bound to try and recreate it at some point. If the Borg get their hands on anyone with knowledge of Spore drive it's game over for everyone. Perhaps that's why it's erased from the time line. Hmmmmmm....
Why didn't the Klingons ever re-create the genesis device?
Why did they ever want it in the first place? Ask the Tribbles if Klingons have a problem destroying an entire world without Genesis.
Because it didn't work in the first place? As a weapon, it wasn't that amazing, a Starship can already nuke a planet lifeless and by TNG era sunkiller weapons existed. Perhaps some factions indeed had protomatter based planet busters, but that is really not terribly impressive nor setting altering. Though considering that treaties banning metagenic weapons (again, a way better weapon than a protomatter bomb) existed, it is possible that protomatter weapons would be banned as well. We've been over this many times already.
They wanted it because as it was supposed to work, it was eat your cake and have it too type of a weapon. Nuke an enemy planet, and you still have a liveable planet. But as the latter part didn't work, it really wasn't a big deal anymore.
It was never used properly. We don't know if it would have worked or not.
It wasn't intended to fired at a nebula and create a planet. It was meant to be used on an existing planatoid.
We do. It didn't. Comparing it to the spore drive or time crystals is absurd. Both have been shown to work reliably multiple times.
Uh, no we don't. It was never used properly, except on small scale in that cave.
It was never used for it's intended purpose, on an existing planatoid.
This is getting absurd. You're now inventing stuff to justify your silly comparison. The characters in the film certainly though it never could work, we didn't see it to work, and we never see or hear it working ever since. This is like if all we ever saw of the spore drive was the Glenn disaster, and then Stamets would conclude that there is a fundamental flaw in the drive, and it cannot work. Sure, then someone could then invent fan fiction for it working afterwards like you're doing for the Genesis device, but that really wouldn't be the show's fault.
There indeed are instances of forgotten tech miracles in Star Trek, but Genesis Device is probably the worst example you could pick.
For the same reason why he got fired from his other shows, he is a very creative guy, who is unable to turn in a script on time and on budget.
I’m not inventing anything. They never used the damn device the way it was meant to be used.
