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8X07 "Kill The Moon" (Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

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.... And hey, the Doctor has a yoyo again! What that supposed to be the callback to a previous episode? There was supposed to be one in this episode....

It's a callback to Tom Baker. He used a yo-yo as a "gravity tester" on more than one occasion.
 
I put this one as 'Great." Which is the first time this series I rated it lower than the top choice.

Not to read anything into that though, I really did enjoy this episode, but I had a few pacing issues in the middle. Great story though, even though I knew they weren't really going to let a brand new life form die. I was reminded me of the 50th anniversary special where Clara talked the Doctors out of destroying Gallifrey, I knew this time would be no different.

Also, I can see why Clara is upset, but I can also see that the Doctor had a good reason for letting them make the choice, because he knew they would make the right one. I feel he could have explained this better to Clara so she wouldn't be too upset, but whatever, they need a little conflict between the two and I suppose this is how we're getting it. There are plenty of real life examples where conflict could have been avoided if someone just said something more clearly, so I can't fault this instance for being unrealistic or anything.

Next week's episode looks really interesting. If I've had any complaint so far this series it's that they've stuck around Earth too much, I'm really happy to see them going off planet some more, and a flying Orient Express sounds so wild that it's perfect for 'Who.
 
I'm confused?

Let the Alien Life Form Hatch out of the moon, Moon Gone, Earth Orbit/Gravity fucked up, and devastation occurs.

Destroy the moon, before it hatches, and how is that any different than the loss of the moon to hatching?

Loved it aside from that, and I think Blind Self Preservation (War Hawks?) was well displayed in the episode
 
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Sense when does Doctor Who have to be scientifically correct?

I loved this episode, it had a very classic Who feel to it, even the music and drama seemed very classic Doctor Who. I loved that.

Again, like last week, the episode isn't about the alien of the week, the episode is about the relationships, this time between the Doctor and his companion. The alien of the week is just there to give them something to work off of.

Great ep, look forward to the next.
 
DOCTOR: The Silence, whatever it is, is still out there, and I have to. Excuse me a moment.
(He answers the telephone.)
DOCTOR: Hello? Oh, hello. I'm sorry, this is a very bad line. No, no, no, but that's not possible. She was sealed into the seventh Obelisk. I was at the prayer meeting. Well, no, I get that it's important. An Egyptian goddess loose on the Orient Express, in space. Give us a mo. (to Amy and Rory) Sorry, something's come up. This will have to be goodbye.
AMY: Yeah, I think it's goodbye. Do you think it's goodbye?

Been waiting for this to happen for a while.
 
DOCTOR: The Silence, whatever it is, is still out there, and I have to. Excuse me a moment.
(He answers the telephone.)
DOCTOR: Hello? Oh, hello. I'm sorry, this is a very bad line. No, no, no, but that's not possible. She was sealed into the seventh Obelisk. I was at the prayer meeting. Well, no, I get that it's important. An Egyptian goddess loose on the Orient Express, in space. Give us a mo. (to Amy and Rory) Sorry, something's come up. This will have to be goodbye.
AMY: Yeah, I think it's goodbye. Do you think it's goodbye?

Been waiting for this to happen for a while.

I'm wondering if the 11th Doctor ever made it and is just now showing up a tad late :D
 
Can't believe no one's done this yet.
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I just discovered these Radio Times episode posters a little while ago. I like the retro feel of them and it makes up for the fact that BBC isnt doing them again this year for some reason. I just wish they were landscape format rather than portrait.
 
With a Time Machine, it's quite difficult to be late.

Clara: Where the hell have you been?
The Doctor: You sent me for coffee.
Clara: Three weeks ago. In Glasgow.
The Doctor: Three weeks, that's a long time.
Clara: In Glasgow. That's dead in a ditch.
The Doctor: It's not my fault, I got distracted.
Clara: By what?
The Doctor: We can always find something. Come on.

Maybe The Doctor decided to send Rory and Amy on their honeymoon instead then forgot about The Orient Express in space.
 
Fantastic episode. I loved how unashamedly high concept it was and I thought the main characters (and actors) were brilliant in it.
 
I am enjoying this series (it is really nice to finally be interested enough to become a full time viewer again) but this episode is the first failure for me. I definitely did not need the heavy handed "subtext" about choice.

Oh well. I'm looking forward to better things next week!
 
Meh about this. Good episode, not great. Again, Capaldi was great. He's not the issue.

We watched with a few friends, and for the last few seasons Moffat has been doing arcs across an entire season, some things even spanning more then one. We're kinda expecting that. Now, except for the few shots with Missy, and two mentions of the girl in the shop, there isn't an arc. And that confuses people, perhaps? And we all kinda figure that the last two or three episodes of this season are going to be a massive reveal/arc like story.

Anyway, this episode.... Again, was ok. The premise of the moon was fun, some solid performances by Capalde and Coleman. The shots on the moon looked nice. The pay-off was....I need to think about that.
 
There probably should have been some explanation offered for the creatures sudden growth spurt.

.... And hey, the Doctor has a yoyo again! What that supposed to be the callback to a previous episode? There was supposed to be one in this episode....

It's a callback to Tom Baker. He used a yo-yo as a "gravity tester" on more than one occasion.


Probably an unintended callback, but I think way back in Destiny of the Daleks(?) Four made a reference to a planet actually being a giant space slug that had formed a rocky shell around itself.

Then of course theres the fact that up until a few years ago, the interior of the Earth was a Racnoss hatchery.
 
DOCTOR: The Silence, whatever it is, is still out there, and I have to. Excuse me a moment.
(He answers the telephone.)
DOCTOR: Hello? Oh, hello. I'm sorry, this is a very bad line. No, no, no, but that's not possible. She was sealed into the seventh Obelisk. I was at the prayer meeting. Well, no, I get that it's important. An Egyptian goddess loose on the Orient Express, in space. Give us a mo. (to Amy and Rory) Sorry, something's come up. This will have to be goodbye.
AMY: Yeah, I think it's goodbye. Do you think it's goodbye?
Been waiting for this to happen for a while.

I'm wondering if the 11th Doctor ever made it and is just now showing up a tad late :D
King of like with the Eighth going to Cambridge to "resume" the Shada adventure that The Five Doctors interrupted the Fourth to undergo. ;)
 
Horrible science (mass, gravity, etc.) and horrible history (100 million years?!). The climax almost makes up for all of that, but not quite. It was good to see Clara snapping at The Doctor because his behavior this whole regeneration has been very questionable. Hopefully, we'll see more exploration on this aspect.

Since we are on a Trek board I was wondering if, when the moon hatched, anyone else thought the creature was the Great Bird of the Galaxy? Because that's what I thought. :vulcan:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Bird_of_the_Galaxy
I certainly did! :D
 
I'm really not sure what that episode was. I wasn't sure weather to laugh or cry really.
 
Horrible science

Anything beyond the fact that there isn't a creature growing inside the moon? ;)

"high tide, everywhere at once" made me lul out loud. That is not how tides work ...

The moon usually not having any gravity according to the ep was fun too.

I also liked how they could *see* and *hear* the creature hatch from a beach in broad daylight. :lol: And what was it flapping its wings against, exactly, anyway?

Some fabulous acting in this episode, but I did have to make an active effort to ignore the plot/science/everything.
 
Horrible science

Anything beyond the fact that there isn't a creature growing inside the moon? ;)

"high tide, everywhere at once" made me lul out loud. That is not how tides work ...

The moon usually not having any gravity according to the ep was fun too.

I also liked how they could *see* and *hear* the creature hatch from a beach in broad daylight. :lol: And what was it flapping its wings against, exactly, anyway?

Some fabulous acting in this episode, but I did have to make an active effort to ignore the plot/science/everything.

I'm sure they din't mean literally everywhere on the planet, but tides being effected planet-wide.

And did someone actually say the moon had no gravity? It certainly had more than normal.

And no explaination re the sound. But we've seen the space whale use fins to move through space. I dunno, its a spacegoing lifeform. Prthaps its fins have some form of biological gravity generators or something. It already seems likely that the creatures can convert energy to matter as part of their biology.
 
* Farfetched premise, but felt like a story from the classic era.
* Courtney wasn't to bad.
* I actually liked Danny in this episode. Much better written than last week.
* The Doctor telling them to make the choice was prefect. He actually thought was doing the respectful thing.
Not even the worst of the Classic era stories got the science this bad.

"When I say run, run!" - Five (possibly Warriors Of The Deep) and maybe others.
That's a nod to the Second Doctor.

Dramatically though, the show was more than fine. I was recalling the last time a companion left the TARDIS in a real huff, and that was Tegan - arguably the ONLY one to leave like that until now, unless you count Ian & Barbara. I really want to see the consequences on the Doctor for being himself in another new way. Well done.

Mark
Tegan did not leave in a huff. She left because she couldn't take the violence and innocent peoples' deaths anymore.

Ian and Barbara did not leave in a huff, either. They had a rare opportunity to go home (using a Dalek time ship) and they took it. They weren't angry with the Doctor at all. The only reason for the argument in that episode was because the Doctor was genuinely afraid they wouldn't make it home safely, and wanted them to stay with him.

You want to know who did leave in a huff? Sarah Jane. She brought out a pile of stuff and made a speech about "I'm packing my goodies and I'm going HOME!" and then she whined that she wasn't allowed to go to Gallifrey.

Sense when does Doctor Who have to be scientifically correct?
It would be nice if they pretended to try just a little.

It reminds me of the 8000-year-old South American Mayans in one of the early Fifth Doctor stories. Nobody made the slightest effort at research.
 
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