What the sweet fuck did she do to make that appropriate?
8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)
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The first reason that comes to my mind is that she is abandoning us.
Definitely one of the best Dalek episodes in quite awhile. And Capaldi was even better than before. I wouldn't think it possible after all these years, but he really has made the Doctor feel genuinely strange and mysterious again (in fact those slower, quieter moments in the TARDIS at the beginning might just be my favorite scenes in the episode).
I really hope the writers keep him being this conflicted, uncertain figure for awhile, and don't have him suddenly "figure things out" halfway through the season or something. Because he's so much more interesting this way, when you're not sure how he's going to act.
I really hope the writers keep him being this conflicted, uncertain figure for awhile, and don't have him suddenly "figure things out" halfway through the season or something. Because he's so much more interesting this way, when you're not sure how he's going to act.
Good, almost great. I really like Capaldi and I like the attitude he's bringing back to the Doctor. Reminds me a lost of Hartnell. What dragged it down for me was Clara. I like Clara 99% of the time, but she just didn't work for me in this episode.
Question now: Are we going to have a ship of Rusty Daleks? (see: Descent & I Borg) that have turned "good"?
Question now: Are we going to have a ship of Rusty Daleks? (see: Descent & I Borg) that have turned "good"?
Yeah, that's my interpretation. It will all tie into his conflict over whether he's a good man or not.
I was watching with the subtitles on and they are talking so fast anyway I don't think it makes a difference.
Despite that, I enjoyed this episode. It's kind of a rehash of Season 1's Dalek, but I loved seeing inside the Dalek and the sets looked really nice. I too love Capaldi so far as this conflicted guy because it really does bring forth a new doctor. It feels like we're going back to the Eccleston era in terms of not really knowing what kind of Doctor you're going to get, which is interesting at the moment. Don't really have an opinion on this Pink character. I was kind of hoping we can build the relationship between Clara and The Doctor without a new love interest but I guess that's not going to happen. I'll see where it goes.
Despite that, I enjoyed this episode. It's kind of a rehash of Season 1's Dalek, but I loved seeing inside the Dalek and the sets looked really nice. I too love Capaldi so far as this conflicted guy because it really does bring forth a new doctor. It feels like we're going back to the Eccleston era in terms of not really knowing what kind of Doctor you're going to get, which is interesting at the moment. Don't really have an opinion on this Pink character. I was kind of hoping we can build the relationship between Clara and The Doctor without a new love interest but I guess that's not going to happen. I'll see where it goes.
Is it me or has series 8 so far had a rather washed out look at times?
Not so sure about this "no soldier" thing, that just didn't seem right though not exactly out-of-character. Rather hypocritical I would say.
No disingenuous "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry" for this Doc. "Top layer if you want to say a few words" seemed like something Tom Baker might've said.
The insides of a Dalek are really cheap lol, the classic era could've pulled this episode off for the most part.
Not so sure about this "no soldier" thing, that just didn't seem right though not exactly out-of-character. Rather hypocritical I would say.
No disingenuous "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry" for this Doc. "Top layer if you want to say a few words" seemed like something Tom Baker might've said.
The insides of a Dalek are really cheap lol, the classic era could've pulled this episode off for the most part.
Oh and one other thing and this is more of a TV pet peeve. In one scene they are in this liquid substance and soaking wet. In the next scene they are completely dry. Just once I would love an explanation if they are going to do something like that. Almost took me out of the episode.
The "no-soldier" thing is both hypocritical and entitled on the Doctor's part. It doesn't make any sense at all.
I'm not sure why Journey decided all of a sudden that she wanted to join The Doctor. Maybe the Doctor showing her another way of dealing with the Daleks appealed to her but her adventure with the Doctor and his behavior during it wasn't exactly the greatest advertisement for joining Team Tardis.
And again, with the Doctor's hypocracy...she finds another way to deal with the Dalek and he still rejects her. The Daleks apparently took over her world and want to wipe out all of humanity. So tell me why again it's wrong to be a soldier and fight them?
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I had a few problems with it. Okay, two. And they're related.
I would have liked more backstory on the situation. When does this take place? (The script says 31st-century, but th episode itself doesn't say.) How long has the war gone on? What's the deal with the paranoia and the duplicates? How did things get this way? There's basic world-building that this episode doesn't have. It's poorer for it.
The episode spends its time on Clara's personal life instead. The ten minutes spent on Clara and Danny could have been spent on making the setting more than the generic.
I realize that Phil Ford was working in the fine tradition of Eric Saward; his "Resurrection of the Daleks" also made no effort to world-build the human-Dalek conflict. In both cases, it's unfortunate.
I would have liked more backstory on the situation. When does this take place? (The script says 31st-century, but th episode itself doesn't say.) How long has the war gone on? What's the deal with the paranoia and the duplicates? How did things get this way? There's basic world-building that this episode doesn't have. It's poorer for it.
The episode spends its time on Clara's personal life instead. The ten minutes spent on Clara and Danny could have been spent on making the setting more than the generic.
I realize that Phil Ford was working in the fine tradition of Eric Saward; his "Resurrection of the Daleks" also made no effort to world-build the human-Dalek conflict. In both cases, it's unfortunate.
BTW, I think people are reading too much into the "hostility" Doctor showed to Blue. It feels more like he was trying to push her way (maybe because Doctor has finally realized that having companions around is not a good idea). Even with Clara, he seems to be doing the same thing.
Rusty tricked the other Daleks into believing that the humans had activated their self-destruct. The warship probably left once Rusty was on board.
Maybe because he told her "I think you're probably nice. Underneath it all I think you're kind and definitely brave, I just wish you hadn't been a soldier". If he was just trying to push her away it's a rather shitty cruel way to do it. This would be like just wanting to be alone for a while and telling someone you didn't want to go out on a date because they were fat.
That's the way the Doctor does things. He is an alien with limited social graces.
Isn't the brigadier his best friend?
^ The Doctor is a hypocrite. Just like he stance of mass destruction and homicide is hypocritical.
I'm really not understanding this whole "am I a good man" thing Moffat's got going on. Pre-Day of the Doctor, sure. But after he found a way to save Gallifrey and everyone on it, you'd think the Doctor wouldn't struggle with the question so much. Also, not taking Journey on because she's a soldier makes no sense either. The Doctor was a soldier, and wound up redeeming his Time War incarnation, not to mention being married to an ex-psychopath with a propensity for using a gun.
