765874 - Unification
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I guess it just goes to show that you can't please everybody.
Exactly. No production in history was so terrible that there was not someone out there somewhere who doesnt absolutely love it. And vice versa. It is what it is.
Why would you want to?
I appreciate this as what it is: a curiosity to showcase new technologies. But I'd much prefer it if this stays non-canon. I already didn't like it when they brought back Kirk in Generations to kill him. I certainly don't need him to get resurrected now. Just leave the past in the past and move forward. Anyway, the Shatnerverse novels already followed this plot line.
I agree with other posters that McCoy should have been a part of it, though. TOS was always centered around the trio, not just Kirk and Spock (no matter what the K/S fans like to pretend), so it feels incomplete without him. Obviously McCoy would be dead by now, but maybe show a symbol, a photo... I don't know, something to acknowledge him...
I agree with other posters that McCoy should have been a part of it, though. TOS was always centered around the trio, not just Kirk and Spock (no matter what the K/S fans like to pretend), so it feels incomplete without him. Obviously McCoy would be dead by now, but maybe show a symbol, a photo... I don't know, something to acknowledge him...
McCoy was still alive at the start of tng season 1, it’s not a stretch to imagine he survived for another decade or more.
People were speculating that the garden at the beginning is part of the Enterprise J, as per other OTOY productions. So it would be far away in the future. Even Spock's son appears to be quite old.
Eh, that's right. "Allen Menschen recht getan, ist eine Kunst, die niemand kann", as they say in Germany. ^^
@Airin, I completely agree, that Bones would've been a great addition - but, why does McCoy need to be dead? You yourself brought the Shatner-novels up and in those stories, Bones is still alive and kicking. When he asks Bashir, why that'd be and Subatoi says "Dunno", Bones says "Me neither". But Shatner knew - he said that Bones was "too stubborn to die".
And I'd liked exactly that. Plus, but that's just me, and I already pointed it out: One could now film the Shatner-Verse using the technology, that they put to use for this short.
Interesting, but this brings to another problem: Vulcans don’t usually love that long!
Right. Wow. This is definitely going to happen. Can’t wait.
Saavik probably would have been roughly two hundred years old by the mid-25th century, which was Sarek's age when he died. Although he had space dementia.
We don't have a launch date for the Enterprise-J, but mid to late 25th century is plausible, so it could line up.
Of course, there's already time travel involved so we perhaps don't need to take it at face value.
We don't have a launch date for the Enterprise-J, but mid to late 25th century is plausible, so it could line up.
Of course, there's already time travel involved so we perhaps don't need to take it at face value.
No need for that sarcasm. ^^ I'm just saying, the technology is there.
From a condition that was said to be quite rare.
Oh, I was mixing it up with the arboretum ship on Discovery season 3! Wasn't the -J active in the 29th century or so, though?
I wasn't being sarcastic: I enjoy those books, enjoyed the comic adaptation of Ashes of Eden and would love to see those adventures on screen. They go often into power-trip territory, but they also have a lot of heart.
Good point. Do we have a definite on how long vulcans usually live?
I could've sworn that when McCoy and Sarek are talking about his age in "Journey to Babel," McCoy said something about 102 being early- or late-middle-age for a Vulcan, but checking the transcript, he just says that it's a young age for a Vulcan to retire. In an episode of LDS, Mariner suggests T'Lynn is having a "quarter-life crisis" at age 62, so "about 250 on average" seems to be the most we've got.
Seems reasonable to me.
Daniels says it was 400 years in Archer's future, so the assumption is it was the middle of the 26th century.
Given that we are already up to the Enterprise-G in 2401 (which is already a ship with history), the Enterprise-J might have been an old ship by then!
Late 25th/early 26th century seems like a reasonable timeframe for both Saavik and the Ent-J, assuming there's no other time travel shenanigans.
I stand corrected, thank you.
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