6x02 Day of the Moon (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)
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Well how would people forget the plans they made if it didn't erase itself. Because obviously the plan isn't actually the knowledge of the Silence, but still goes away.
And how does he even know that?
Argh! This gets worse the more you think about it.
Exactly.
Not me. That episode left a bitter taste in my mouth. It was like the Doctor had been raped and forced to accept an adult child he didn't want. And I found the character to be smug and her creation really pointless.
Actually, wouldn't that be in character for "Mr. No Second Chances"?I know what you mean, Ten never really was the man he claimed to be in The Christmas Invasion, at least not after that. And that's why he also gave the Family of Blood a chance but they refused and then, they had hell to pay.
Which I found chilling, because torture isn't really in character for the Doctor either. The fates he chose for those beings were both calculated and cruel. Why not just hand them over to the Shadow Proclamation? But I guess the point I'm trying to make is each situation and story is different, and condemning Eleven for his actions against the Silents (or slamming Moffat for his writing it) while ignoring what other Doctors (or writers) have done (Nine blowing up the Slitheen for instance, or Ten killing the Racnoss) is unfair and biased.
I think we will too. Moffat did say the season would start with a bang, and it certainly did! Yes there are a lot of unanswered questions, and he acknowledges that - he's not stupid. He's got the story planned out, but it's too epic to tell in just one episode. I can wait for something like that.
No it won't. However great a one-off romp the pirates are, the unanswered questions will stay unanswered.
Only temporarily.
The same way he remembered Rory when he got erased from time - he's a Time Lord.
The same way he remembered Rory when he got erased from time - he's a Time Lord.
Nope, he was effected by them too.
No it won't. However great a one-off romp the pirates are, the unanswered questions will stay unanswered.
Only temporarily.
Didn't we think that last year as well?
Checkmate
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Uhm, no, information about them doesn't delete itself. Memories get "deleted," but that's about it. The data is still there (he used the recording on Amy's phone to make the hologram over three months since it was recorded), they just forget about it the more time goes on. But as soon as they see the recording, or see another Silent, or stay focused on the conversation with a frame of reference, most of the information returns to them. With the exception that the more they rely solely on their own experiences, the quicker the memories fade.
So no, the moon landing wouldn't disappear. Everyone would just forget they saw the interruption of it for all time, though they'd likely remember it each time they saw it as they were seeing it.
You know, just like how Amy could remember seeing early encounters with the Silence whenever she saw one, and how all of them remembered to mark themselves/record the experience each time they saw one.
I'll check later but I'm sure he said "Even information about the erased itself over time".
He does - he says "Even information about those creatures erases itself over time".
I thought so.
If we are true to what happened, there isn't a Twelfth Doctor. While I'm sure that the Doctor's death will be fixed one way or another very soon, at this stage of the story he is dead, and there's no Twelfth Doctor in the current timeline who could take part in the events. Unless...
Anyway, the older doctor knew what was going to happen. Or at least that something was going to happen. It was obviously him who sent the letters, he was in charge. Even if someone had to invite him first, that someone had a meeting with him first, and then the Doctor invited the rest. I'd guess that this someone could be River, but I should stop guessing since my last two guesses in this thread contradicted half of the episodes.
I think the future Eleven planned on dying that day, and he sent the letters because he wanted Amy, Rory, River, and Canton to be there for it, not because he found out that he died on that specific day and wanted to change his fate. Maybe he finally learned who the person in the space suit was, and his death would help them in some fashion, so he did it willingly. I think eventually the current Eleven will figure out who exactly the person in the space suit is, too, but instead of giving his life to help them, he'll figure out something else, thereby rewriting his own future and preventing his death.
Given that they were still using Amy's photo of one several months later, I'm pretty sure they meant knowledge rather than information. That is, anything written/stored/etc. is retained, but anything memorized eventually fades. Given the context of that scene and the way it was explained to Canton, that's the only thing that makes sense.
The orphanage caretaker, however, did demonstrate how even written data might be erased; by cleaning it up thinking someone else had put it there.
True but if the doctor is interfering directly in his own past why bother being vague about it. I would think it would be better for him to be explicit in his letter to himself as to what is going to happen and why.
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