Speaking of "Frankenstein"
He looked more like Frankenstein than in this episode.
He looked more like Frankenstein than in this episode.
6.5x08 Let's Kill Hitler (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)
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Oh yeah, I nearly forgot:
6: Tune in next time for a self-contained episode that has nothing to do with the story arc in a series that is trying to emphasize a story arc over self-contained episodes!
6: Tune in next time for a self-contained episode that has nothing to do with the story arc in a series that is trying to emphasize a story arc over self-contained episodes!
Speaking of "Frankenstein"
He looked more like Frankenstein than in this episode.
They should have shot a Music Video of putin' on the Ritz for the DVD release!
Any guesses on the most important question in the universe?
I'm thinking it's "River, will you marry me?"
I'm thinking it's "River, will you marry me?"
What did I just watch? That was nothing more than an incoherent and convoluted mess. Surrealism and wackiness is now a replacement for story-telling. Am I watching Doctor Who or Adventure Time? I don't want to become the next Bones here, but I don't know if I would even call what I just watched a TV show. It felt more like an acid trip. 1 out of 5.
Let me try to end this on a positive note. The next episode looks pretty good. A good old fashioned episode where the Doctor fights some monsters. Should be entertaining.
Let me try to end this on a positive note. The next episode looks pretty good. A good old fashioned episode where the Doctor fights some monsters. Should be entertaining.
Pootin Un Das Ritz!
AV Club review of "Let's Kill Hitler" is up here: http://www.avclub.com/articles/lets-kill-hitler,60806/
Warning, it is total spoilers.
Warning, it is total spoilers.
The Moffat era seems to place a premium on being a romp above all else and it seems everything takes a back seat to being clever, funny and flip. It's not completely my cup of tea but I have been trying to take it for what it is.
Fish sticks and Custard here.
All I can figure is its his attempt to balance out all the dark and creepy images in his stories. I don't have a problem with it. To be honest, I like my Doctor Who to be a bit of a romp sometimes, just as long as it doesn't descend into
Graham Williams/Douglas Adams levels.
I enjoyed it well enough, though yeah, one does wonder where the troops/police were during all this. There really needed to be a quick shot out a window of a bunch of soldiers standing helplessly outside to go along with the 'sound barrier' (or whatever it was called) reference.
I think my only real dissapointment was Rivers abrupt change of heart. All those grand scheme sand years of training and programming to kill the Doctor, only to have it all go right out the window the first time she looks into his eyes.
Any other show would have spent a few episodes with her being the big baddie. Laying traps and hunting him through space, and the Doctor barely escaping before she changed.
Okay, I confess they really got me with the regenerating Mel scene. At her first appearance and during the flashback I remember thinking to myself 'God tell me this isn't a new companion. I want to choke her.'
Still, clever stuff though. She tracks down Amy and ingratiates herself to her, does the line through his name in the wheatfield, shoots the console to force the Tardis to land...
Tiny humans operating a human shaped vehicle. Wasn't that an Eddie Murphy movie?
Sonic cane? The hell?
I loved Matt's dance moves. More of that please.
And while we're at it, I really liked his long jacket. Hope we get to see it again.
I think the big problem with this seasons arc is there just aren't enough episodes to squeeze in everything. Something like this needs an old style 24 episode season just to fit in all the epicness it deserves.
And now, off to see how things are going over at GB. Pray for me.
All I can figure is its his attempt to balance out all the dark and creepy images in his stories. I don't have a problem with it. To be honest, I like my Doctor Who to be a bit of a romp sometimes, just as long as it doesn't descend into
Graham Williams/Douglas Adams levels.
I enjoyed it well enough, though yeah, one does wonder where the troops/police were during all this. There really needed to be a quick shot out a window of a bunch of soldiers standing helplessly outside to go along with the 'sound barrier' (or whatever it was called) reference.
I think my only real dissapointment was Rivers abrupt change of heart. All those grand scheme sand years of training and programming to kill the Doctor, only to have it all go right out the window the first time she looks into his eyes.
Any other show would have spent a few episodes with her being the big baddie. Laying traps and hunting him through space, and the Doctor barely escaping before she changed.
Okay, I confess they really got me with the regenerating Mel scene. At her first appearance and during the flashback I remember thinking to myself 'God tell me this isn't a new companion. I want to choke her.'
Still, clever stuff though. She tracks down Amy and ingratiates herself to her, does the line through his name in the wheatfield, shoots the console to force the Tardis to land...
Tiny humans operating a human shaped vehicle. Wasn't that an Eddie Murphy movie?
Sonic cane? The hell?
I loved Matt's dance moves. More of that please.
And while we're at it, I really liked his long jacket. Hope we get to see it again.
I think the big problem with this seasons arc is there just aren't enough episodes to squeeze in everything. Something like this needs an old style 24 episode season just to fit in all the epicness it deserves.
And now, off to see how things are going over at GB. Pray for me.
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That's what you think!
Like this episode and the pirates/sleeping patients episode things are not always so clean cut with Moffat.
The doll monsters will probably be scientists wearing protective gear examining peoples minds.
Most of Doctor Who is self-contained and people have been bitching non-stop about the fact that there is an arc they don't feel like investing themselves in. The arc has been set up as something that needs addressing eventually, but not necessarily right now. It was solved enough to push it off until later. Since they can't cross over their own timeline and probably shouldn't alter important parts of their history, there's not much they can do for now.
Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about it. I can completely understand why people are enjoying the show, but it isn't working for me. I just want Doctor Who to lay off the LSD and make sense. Wackiness is great, but there has to be structure for it.
Raise your hand if any of you thought of the 'David Tennant to return to Doctor Who' thread and had your fingers crossed while the Doctor was flipping through the various voice interfaces.
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Loved it! The fact that it took place in 1938 Berlin and yet had almost nothing to do with the Nazis (after Rory punched Hitler out and stuffed him in the closet 
) was fine by me as a bit of bait and switch, and the "reveal" of Mels was obvious in hindsight but caught me by surprise.
I'm 90% sure that we haven't seen the last of Evil!River/Melody. In fact, I think that the spacesuit
Or... maybe the robot miniaturized assassin people - they have time travel after all? I actually liked that thing, and it seems to be introducing a third side to this whole affair, at least temporarily. After all, they got beamed back to their mother ship but clearly aren't in cahoots with the Silence.
) was fine by me as a bit of bait and switch, and the "reveal" of Mels was obvious in hindsight but caught me by surprise. I'm 90% sure that we haven't seen the last of Evil!River/Melody. In fact, I think that the spacesuit
is still going to be piloted by Melody, or perhaps Mels, either before being freed by the Doctor (from her perspective) or in the time between regenerating into Mels and meeting Amelia. Obviously this'll require time travel but is there any reason this couldn't work?
Or... maybe the robot miniaturized assassin people - they have time travel after all? I actually liked that thing, and it seems to be introducing a third side to this whole affair, at least temporarily. After all, they got beamed back to their mother ship but clearly aren't in cahoots with the Silence.
Wow, I didn't think Moffat's storytelling could get any MORE wacky and off the wall... but somehow he topped himself once again. lol
Personally I thought it was a blast. I wouldn't want every episode to be like this obviously, but now and then it's great to see Moffat just go completely crazy with ideas and then dare us to keep up.
Frankly, when you have a character and concept as fantastic and imaginative as this, this is probably the kind of thing you SHOULD be doing with it. It's amazing to me that so many fans just want to go back to go back to the tired, conventional way of telling stories all the time.
Personally I thought it was a blast. I wouldn't want every episode to be like this obviously, but now and then it's great to see Moffat just go completely crazy with ideas and then dare us to keep up.
Frankly, when you have a character and concept as fantastic and imaginative as this, this is probably the kind of thing you SHOULD be doing with it. It's amazing to me that so many fans just want to go back to go back to the tired, conventional way of telling stories all the time.
