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5x06 The Vampires of Venice (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

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Oops, I'm almost a bit late for the party, since this episode will air slightly earlier, at 6 pm.

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The Doctor takes Amy and Rory away for a romantic break but terror awaits in 16th century Venice. What secrets are held by the House of Calvierri and who is the mysterious Rosanna?

Well, I'm mildly excited. Hopefully not too much rehashing of the 'travelling with the Doctor is dangerous' theme.
 
Well, that was all very silly, wasn't it?

A few good bits (good funnies and more "cracks" info), but nothing special apart from that. Not bad, just OK.

And next week's episode looks like it could be great....:D
 
Great stuff.

Loved the Doctor's reaction to Rory not being amazed at the TARDIS being bigger on the inside. Loved the scenery, it looked fantastic. Part of me was hoping for a half-a-second shot of a guy in a white hood running on a rooftop, but then I am a gaming nerd. ;)

Glad Rory stuck around. Seems like he might be an interesting addition to the TARDIS crew. "I'm getting married in 430 years" :lol:

Some more interesting arc stuff, with everyone disappearing at the end, and the subsequent silence. More talk of cracks, too.

The promo for next week looks very interesting, can't wait for that. The Dream Lord, eh? Someone been watching Freddy films recently? ;)
 
Am surprised by early reactions I thought it was Excellent aka Geronimo. I thought it was so funny at times with that opening scene with the cake just priceless. I do wonder how many Daily Mail readers and people on here will get annoyed with the its bigger than mine line but I just nearly choked on laughter.

I like how were seeing consquences from the cracks like with the Time War, remember Rose that alien lifeform was only on there due to the loss of its own world. I loved the whole explanation of how there filter worked to make us see some things but not all.

I noticed am loving how the 11th Doctor tends to walk into a new room spin around and prance around a little to gather his bearings ;)

For some reason the entire episode clicked really well for me though next week lookes a budget saver but in the terms of Blink - great great great.

:techman:

My grades to date

Eleventh Hour - Excellent
The Beast Below - Average
Victory of The Daleks - Average
Time of Angels - Good
Flesh and Stone - Good
Vampires of Venice - Excellent
 
For the most part that was a flawed - the shaky cam at the end of the teaser was especially annoying, and the teaser ended at a weird spot - if fun romp with some funny lines.

Amy's great, Matt Smith got to show some impressive callousness in his delivery as this Doctor's dark side got a line or two, and the monsters looked good.

The bloke playing Rory is still crap, but I've now remembered who he reminds me of- Steve in Time Gentlemen Please. I'm assuming Rory has, like, a 15-inch cock, cos I can't think of *anything* else somebody like Amy could see in a dopey prat like him.

But...

It started off great that it actually was about the consequences of Amy flinging herself at the Doctor last week, though it did threaten to wander in angsty sitcom territory but pulled back at the brink. The story arc was introduced nicely but far too reminiscent of the Pyrovile/missing planets thing in season 4 - and now we've got (as promised in the first episode) a bit of silence falling.

The space-fish were good and so was whoever was playing the mother - her showdown with the Doctor was great. Loved the Casanova gag too.

Unfortunately, what really fucked things up was the Doctor pulling a "you can't change time" speech at the end - exactly the opposite of what he pronounced last week! For a moment I wondered if this had meant to air first, but the consequences-of-Amy's-snogging means that can't be the case...

There was also some *appalling* telling-not-showing. I can't believe the "Something brushed my leg... they're around me... they're biting!" got past the first read-through! I mean, seriously, it's Muir and Norden's version of Zulu made real. Fuck right off! Especially since Fran's following line about "my brothers might think they're being fed twice" would have done the job better if left on its own. (Still telling and not showing, but doing so without drawing attention to itself with stupidity)

Why did the fish-vamps bare their fangs to scare the new recruits then not actually bother biting them at that point? And what about the ten-thousand man-eating space fish in the canals? They'd die out eventually with no females, but how many people would they eat first?

Teh dumb, it burns!

Oh, and the guy playing Francesca (oh, BTW that's a girl's name!) was rubbish as well.

Mostly entertaining, but crashes and burns in the end, to become the first - relatively speaking, it was good fun - clunker of the season. 6/10. On the upside it probably won't be the season clunker for long, cos next week's episode looks *shit* by dint of having a basic premise who's outcome is obvious, and a really rubbish baddie.

Here's hoping it's just bad trailer syndrome.
 
I thought it was good, better than the spitfires in space but I don't think it's really gonna be remembered come next season.
A few dumb moments and a few dumb characters, like the lead male vampire, but all in all I enjoyed it.
 
I actually really enjoyed this episode, apart from the Mickey esque treatment of Rory, that is getting a bit old, hope we see more in the later episodes, that said, he does seem very used to the idea of Time Travel, I know he said he read up, but maybe its something, maybe its not.

The Dream Lord looks interesting
 
i loved it.

apparently, Karen got carried away filming the snog and forgot she had to break it! that was the first take, though...
 
I found this a bit slow to get started; I was clock-watching the 1st 15 minutes. Then it warmed up.

Nice to have a story without too much heavy handed 'story arc' stuff, though it was present. It didn't take over, which I appreciated. I was getting worried they were going to stretch the last two episodes into the last six.

Wasn't sure I bought the stuff about the scary teeth being so scary people could see them through the illusion field. Nor the stuff about mirrors. But it made a reasonable attempt at an explanation. Some good humour in this one, too.

Something a tad odd about Rory. He isnt shocked by the TARDIS, and took to time travel like a pro (I'm getting married in 430 years!) I find myself wondering whether he's got used to the slightly weird being around Amy?? He's also the classic "decent bloke" rather than an action hero. Doesn't look much, but genuinely cares, has serious insight, does his best and is utterly devoted to Amy. I'm glad he's staying around - and I hope she marries him.

It was Francesco, btw, a male name.
 
Liked it.
It was nice to see the Doctor save somewhere outside of Britain and just one city instead of the whole of space/reality/time.
The vampires were really fish from outer-space. That a twist I can't say I expected. Good to see fish as the villians.
The actress playing Countess Fish-Mother was well cast and her lines were good especially on the subject of Gallifrey and her final sentence (The Doctor does have an annoying habit of being either at or to blame for interstellar genocide).
Loved the fact that the all destructive weather doomday device could be thwarted by use of its off switch! Very Doctor Who!
Rory, I'm meh to at the minute he neither interests or annoys me. He is however a nicer bloke that the Doctor as shown by the scene were he isn't freaked out by the size of the TARDIS. Played for comic effect, but the Doctor was actually fairly threating there.
 
I wondered if we were going to get a 10th Doctor refrence, when they mentioned Casanova, what with David Tennant having played both theDoctor & Casanova, and the shirt Tennant wore for Casanova, was seen in the TARDIS wardrobe.

not sure how a chicken fits into this, however now I think about it, there might have been a chicken in the show.
 
It's funny how the perception filter that disguised the vampire lobsters as vampires somehow became real clothes for the MILF one to take off at the end...

Didn't anybody spot this stuff at the readthrough?
 
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