5x04 The Time of Angels (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)

[Starkers]

For some reason the sound quality was better on iplayer (plus no annoying Graham Norton idents!) Sorry I know I fall into the deaf old man category on this site but there definitely is some issue re the soundtrack on Who, might not be the show's fault, might just be the signal I watch it on or even my telly, but sometimes dialogue is quite hard to pick out (case in point on the first viewing I didn't hear River say she'd need an air corridor as well.)

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I was also having trouble hearing some of what was being said.
Glad it was just not me thought I was going deaf.

I feel like I catch about 40% of what's being said on Who. I find it incredibly difficult to pick out dialogue. Maybe it's because I'm an old lady.

Glad its not just me! I don't think its an age thing, I notice a similar problem sometimes with DVDs, its like the music track swamps the dialogue track at times. Sadly it seems worse when I have surround sound on!

 

[Bones2]

^If you're not paying your Licence then you should not be watching any "live" TV. You'll have got lumped in with the other Doctor Who complaints, but to be fair, your "complaint" was idiotic so deserved an automated response.

Thanks for the lecture, I had no idea the License fee wasn't optional.

I'm not a License fee cheat, don't worry. As for my complaint being idiotic, not only have you not read it, but it's a view held by many. I was also careful to indicate I was talking about the previous week's episode where one specifies the date of broadcast, and the complaint was titled "The Dalek redesign.". So there's really no excuse for that level of bumbling incompetence.

Well I'm going to give Bones the benefit of the doubt and assume he means his parents/housemates/landlord is/are the ones who pay the licence fee...if this isn't the case however...

Thank you, your honour.

I can understand how he got the automatic reply. 5000 complaints about Dr Who and the ident and one about Doctor Who and Daleks, it was bound to happen. You should have complained about Daleks a week earler

Yeah, I just didn't really think of doing it until then.

Actually in the interests of timy wimyness I think you should email the BBC now and complain about the Van Gough episode

When there's the near-certain abomination of the Gareth Roberts episode to come? And then there's the continued employment of Chris Chibnall, which is an apt title for a complaint if ever there was one.

 

[Starkers]

Ah I don't quite hate Chibnall as much. His season 1 Torchwood scripts were awful but Season 2 did show a marked improvement that suggested they really hadn't had time to polish the scripts in the first year. 42 isn't a great episode of Who but it isn't terrible. Much like The Idiot Lantern it's just one of those episodes thats just meh!

 

[Bob The Skutter]

^If you're not paying your Licence then you should not be watching any "live" TV. You'll have got lumped in with the other Doctor Who complaints, but to be fair, your "complaint" was idiotic so deserved an automated response.

Thanks for the lecture, I had no idea the License fee wasn't optional.

I'm not a License fee cheat, don't worry. As for my complaint being idiotic, not only have you not read it, but it's a view held by many. I was also careful to indicate I was talking about the previous week's episode where one specifies the date of broadcast, and the complaint was titled "The Dalek redesign.". So there's really no excuse for that level of bumbling incompetence.

It is optional, so long as you don't use a Television for Live TV viewing.

Complaining to the BBC about the redesign of the Daleks is idiotic because, for one thing, it's nothing they can change now it's already been completed, and two it's not their choice it was a creative/production choice and it was made months ago. You don't like them, get over it.

 

[Pindar]

Excellent episode, I like the old weathered angels, very creepy.

I see the miserable complainers are still managing to stick with a show they don't seem to like or enjoy watching.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

I see the miserable complainers are still managing to stick with a show they don't seem to like or enjoy watching.

USS Bones has been enjoying some of the new episodes, actually. He just seems to be much more passionate about the things he hates.

 

[BenRoethig]

I rewatched it to. Oddly enough, I got the impression that they were basically what UNIT evolves into. I don't know why, but it felt that way. Maybe SomethingBig(tm) happens between then and now that causes them to be absorbed by the Roman Catholic Church? Maybe something to do with the possible vampires and whatnot the previews keep hinting at?

Hell, I dunno.

Church of England (anglican) most likely.

 

[Jim Steele]

So the Angels kill the old fashioned way now as well as send people back in time? Seems to be what they did to the three soldiers. Although it would've been interesting if they encountered say, the skeletons of the soldiers who were time-displaced or something. Then again that might've been too "Silence in the library".

The Doctor commented that the Angels aren't killing people in their usual way.

It's right there in the episode. Dialogue, it's important ken?

USS Bones needs to have sex with someone.

 

[Tom]

But there usual way does not kill people, it sends them back to the past where they seem to live long lives, just in the past. That was one thing I never really got was how the angels could get there victims future life essense? The life was not gone just displaced.

 

[Jim Steele]

^ I think it was said that they fed off the potential future lifetime that is prevented from happening, not the actual life energy of the individual. I always took it to mean that they're time-sensitives who feed off changes in the timeline rather like the beetle in Turn Left or ...them things... in Father's Day.

Whether or not they kill people is a matter of perspective. For all intents and purposes, in the present, those people have ceased to be. So it's a gentle, passive way of ending someone's life but it ends none the less.

 

[Bacl]

^Exactly.

The Doctor described them as "creatures of the abstract." Their ability to turn to stone is a "quantum lock" referring to quantum mechanics, which also likes to dictate that everything that is possible does indeed occur, and that we are only experiencing one version.

The angels displace you, and the life that you would have lived had they not displaced you is gone. Gobbled up in the blink of an eye. Remember Billy Shipton from "Blink"? I think his case was the strongest, where we see this clever, charming young man who had just met a woman who seemed to like him back. They exchanged numbers and were likely going to date. Who knows what their future together may have been like? All their stolen moments. The angels consumed all that could have been for Billy.

I am really, really betting that someone (likely Amy or River) gets sent back in time next week. I await an answer as to whether the Doctor can just zip back in the TARDIS and scoop them up, or if he has to leave them there. It is one thing for him to change his own future by traveling in the TARDIS, it is another for him to go back and grab, say River.

 

[Saul]

Great episode, very tense, nice atmosphereic scenes. The TV scene seems right out of Ring and perfectly matches the creepiness of the angels abilities. Some nice Homages to Forest of the dead too.

 

[Bones2]

^If you're not paying your Licence then you should not be watching any "live" TV. You'll have got lumped in with the other Doctor Who complaints, but to be fair, your "complaint" was idiotic so deserved an automated response.

Thanks for the lecture, I had no idea the License fee wasn't optional.

I'm not a License fee cheat, don't worry. As for my complaint being idiotic, not only have you not read it, but it's a view held by many. I was also careful to indicate I was talking about the previous week's episode where one specifies the date of broadcast, and the complaint was titled "The Dalek redesign.". So there's really no excuse for that level of bumbling incompetence.

It is optional, so long as you don't use a Television for Live TV viewing.

Complaining to the BBC about the redesign of the Daleks is idiotic because, for one thing, it's nothing they can change now it's already been completed, and two it's not their choice it was a creative/production choice and it was made months ago. You don't like them, get over it.

I'm well aware of when one does and does not require a TV License, and I'm not breaking the law. As for the Dalek complaint: if you can't complain when classic icons are turned into hunchbacked wax crayons, when can you complain?

I see the miserable complainers are still managing to stick with a show they don't seem to like or enjoy watching.

USS Bones has been enjoying some of the new episodes, actually. He just seems to be much more passionate about the things he hates.

You mean he was targeting that comment at me? What a wretch. I've liked three of the four episodes so far, which made the Dalek one all the more disappointing. This constant suggestion that I automatically dislike everything is getting very boring.

USS Bones needs to have sex with someone.

Not now thanks Jim, I've got a headache.

 

[wamdue]

USS Bones needs to have sex with someone.

shall we all club together and get him a hooker? does anyone know his type?

 

[Pindar]

You mean he was targeting that comment at me?

No, it was a blanket statement for all the moaners to cuddle up under.

This constant suggestion that I automatically dislike everything is getting very boring.

The only person you can blame for that is yourself.

For, you know, disliking almost everything.

 

[Starkers]

USS Bones needs to have sex with someone.

shall we all club together and get him a hooker? does anyone know his type?

Cardassians?

 

[Bones2]

USS Bones needs to have sex with someone.

shall we all club together and get him a hooker? does anyone know his type?

It can't be nice people, otherwise I certainly wouldn't keep coming back here.

This constant suggestion that I automatically dislike everything is getting very boring.

The only person you can blame for that is yourself.

For, you know, disliking almost everything.

But then, that's not actually true. As I just said. Maybe you should get your facts straight.

 

[Pindar]

Maybe you should get your facts straight.

Well I did say almost everything as you did say you liked a few of the recent episodes.

 

[wamdue]

USS Bones needs to have sex with someone.

shall we all club together and get him a hooker? does anyone know his type?

It can't be nice people, otherwise I certainly wouldn't keep coming back here.

I am sure we can find a dominatrix who will insult & belittle you, will cost more, but if that is what you want.

 

[Starkers]

Cardassian it is!