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5x011 The Lodger (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

Grade "The Lodger

  • Who da Man?!

    Votes: 36 33.6%
  • Good

    Votes: 50 46.7%
  • Average

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • Poor

    Votes: 8 7.5%
  • What episode? The crack erased it

    Votes: 3 2.8%

  • Total voters
    107
  • Poll closed .
^Someone was trying to build a TARDIS, it crashed and the emergency hologram was trying to get it repaired.

Do we know who played the older male version of the emergency hologram (the one who was there when the doctor entered) - the voice sounded familiar but couldn't place it.
 
Enjoyable episode, if maybe a bit predictable. During the soccer, err... "football" scene it became obvious the rest of the episode was going to have the Doctor constantly upstaging Craig, and when Craig's girlfriend was lured upstairs I didn't believe for one minute she was going to die.

The Doctor's ignorance on humans, human customs, and even what century he was in made no sense to me. The guy spends more time on Earth than any other planet with the possible exception of Gallifrey and has more human friends than some humans, so he should be able to blend into Earth society no problem. I can understand his eccentric personality causing everyone to go "WTF?" but complete ignorance? No, Im not buying it.

Still, the episode provided some nice character interactions and some fun moments and was a nice light-hearted quiet episode before we get to the epic finale.

On a final note, when the Doctor heat-butted Craig to reveal who he was, do you suppose Craig might have learned the Doctor's actual name? Of course, Craig would likely also know why the Doctor keeps it secret and would know better than to say it.

EDIT: Just one last thing, why the hell does the title of this thread have a leading zero, anyway?
 
As for the proto-TARDIS, I've never seen or heard from any credible source that there was any rewrite or such for this episode. Certainly not for such a random, and obscure "bad guy" like 'Meglos'. ( :lol: ). Whoever started that idea is just some fanboy wanking off to a really bad era of Who. The Lodger is as it was created to be. Not to mention, it just lends that much more mystery into who is The Silence?
Not a rewrite; it was in the original draft. And it's not a made up rumour by a sad fan; Gareth Roberts revealed it in a DWM interview. So much for "The Lodger is as it was created to be". I didn't say I heard it as a rumour, I said it as though it was factual, and you still dismissed it out of hand merely because you'd not heard it before.
 
This was Smith's best episode. They should give him more material like it in season six.
 
Not a rewrite; it was in the original draft. And it's not a made up rumour by a sad fan; Gareth Roberts revealed it in a DWM interview. So much for "The Lodger is as it was created to be". I didn't say I heard it as a rumour, I said it as though it was factual, and you still dismissed it out of hand merely because you'd not heard it before.

Of course I did. Why would I believe some random internet critic with widely varying degrees of objectivity and perspective? :lol: For all I know, you made it up yourself. It may still be fiction, as I've neither read nor heard of this interview. I won't ask for a link, as it's in a magazine. But, for all I know, you could still be just making it up right now.
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However, if that is true, it really lowers my opinion of Roberts' writing and ideas. I can think of a dozen better ideas that bring back a nobody like "Meglos" (wasn't he just a disease, anyway?) Talk about lame fanwank... :rolleyes:
 
However, if that is true, it really lowers my opinion of Roberts' writing and ideas.

It took this long? He's not a very good writer. His SJA output, Planet of the Dead and TUATW are testament to that. The Lodger was easily his best Who story.
 
EDIT: Just one last thing, why the hell does the title of this thread have a leading zero, anyway?

Padding. Otherwise the review threads won't alphabetize properly after we hit the hundredth episode of series 5.

Then why were episodes 1-9 01-09 as opposed to 001-009? And why didn't the review thread for Vincent and the Doctor have a leading zero in it?

You know, you guys want to play with zeroes like you're JJ Abrams, I can learn to ignore it. But is it really too much to ask for consistency in how you number the episodes?
 
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I love how my extremely subtle and dry sarcasm mixes so well with your broad and ostentatious sarcasm.
 
However, if that is true, it really lowers my opinion of Roberts' writing and ideas.

It took this long? He's not a very good writer. His SJA output, Planet of the Dead and TUATW are testament to that. The Lodger was easily his best Who story.

Are you dissing "The Unicorn & the Wasp"? That was one of my favorite episodes from Season 4; if only on the basis of the Doctor's flashback where he talks about rescuing Charlemaigne from an insane computer.:guffaw: (And while "Planet of the Dead" wasn't great, it's probably my favorite of the 2008-2010 specials because it has the least amount of Tennant overacting.)

I love "The Lodger." After 31 years, it's difficult to come up with unique episodes that buck the Doctor Who formula. That's why I love episodes like this or "Midnight" or "Blink" or "Amy's Choice" or "Father's Day" or "Human Nature"/"The Family of Blood" or "The Girl in the Fireplace."
 
Not a rewrite; it was in the original draft. And it's not a made up rumour by a sad fan; Gareth Roberts revealed it in a DWM interview. So much for "The Lodger is as it was created to be". I didn't say I heard it as a rumour, I said it as though it was factual, and you still dismissed it out of hand merely because you'd not heard it before.

Of course I did. Why would I believe some random internet critic with widely varying degrees of objectivity and perspective? :lol: For all I know, you made it up yourself. It may still be fiction, as I've neither read nor heard of this interview. I won't ask for a link, as it's in a magazine. But, for all I know, you could still be just making it up right now.
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So you still think I've made it up? I suppose effectively calling me a fanboy wanker is still better than your usual tactic of calling someone a twat and tagging a smiley on the end.
However, if that is true, it really lowers my opinion of Roberts' writing and ideas. I can think of a dozen better ideas that bring back a nobody like "Meglos" (wasn't he just a disease, anyway?) Talk about lame fanwank... :rolleyes:
Roberts is a rubbish writer. It's not news.
 
The Lodger is good, and the Shakespeare Code was good, TUATW wasn't...but that might have been cos he was told to basically do TSC all over again!
 
Yet previous Saturday i completely watched all Doctor who season 5 all 13 episodes. But it was my top favorite episode. Actually this was just lovely in so many ways. Though the plot and the monster were rubbish, but everything else was just FANTASTIC.
 
Though the plot and the monster were rubbish, but everything else was just FANTASTIC.
Turning the Doctor into a bumbling idiot who doesn't understand people and money despite all his hundreds of years with humans, and going one worse than TGITF's Vulcan mindmeld by transferring everything the plot needs fatty to know with a headbutt? Think I preferred the monster (or lack of) myself.
 
I didn't mind the Doctor being a fish out of water. He never sticks around to play a soccer game, he jumps in, fights the monster, and leaves. He's always on the move. I don't see him knowing much about the boring day to day minutia of human life. Not to mention that traveling to thousands of worlds and time-frames, how's he supposed to keep track of what custom is with that?
 
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