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50th Anniversary Rewatch Thread

Wouldn't be "historically accurate" to watch in remastered version, correct?
Of course, you'll need a High Fidelity Console Television to really get the effect.
"Rabbit ears" too.
 
Wouldn't be "historically accurate" to watch in remastered version, correct?
CGI probably wasn't even a gleam in anyone's coke-bottle-bespectacled eye back in 1966.
Of course, you'll need a High Fidelity Console Television to really get the effect.
"Rabbit ears" too.
I'm behind the times tech-wise, but not that far! I can readily remember, though....
 
CGI probably wasn't even a gleam in anyone's coke-bottle-bespectacled eye back in 1966.

I'm behind the times tech-wise, but not that far! I can readily remember, though....

Well, I'll just watch the neat modern version and pretend that it is the old crappy one.;)
 
Let's set some atmosphere, shall we?

Events in the news this week in 1966:

August 29 – The Beatles end their US tour with a concert at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. It is their last performance as a live touring band.

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August 30 – France offers independence to French Somaliland (later Djibouti in 1977).

September 1
  • United Nations Secretary-General U Thant declares that he will not seek re-election, because U.N. efforts in Vietnam have failed.
  • 98 British tourists die in an air crash in Ljubljana, Yugoslavia.
  • While waiting at a bus stop Ralph Baer, an inventor with Sanders Associates, writes a four-page document that lays out the basic principles for creating a video game to be played on a television: the beginning of a multibillion-dollar industry.

Among the new arrivals on the U.S. charts the week ending September 3, 1966:

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And #1 on the charts that week:

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"The Cage", September 1st, rewatch warm-up round

Before we start, I figured a short intro was in order.

So, this week we're watching the first pilot for Star Trek, rejected by NBC in 1965 for being "too cerebral", which is a shorthand for "not enough jokes, fights, explosions and torn shirts in it".

Short Synopsis: Captain Chris Pine Pike of the USS Enterprise and his merry sombre crew encounter a strange distress signal that leads them to an alien Zoo, but wait... they're supposed to be the animals! Tam-DAm-daM!

Since there's people from different time zones here, simultaneous rewatch is kinda out of the question, so feel free to watch it when you can and report back here with your findings! I'll be watching it later this evening, see ya then! :techman:
 
"The Cage", September 1st, rewatch warm-up round

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So, this week we're watching the first pilot for Star Trek, rejected by NBC in 1965 for being "too cerebral", which is a shorthand for "not enough jokes, fights, explosions and torn shirts in it".

That version of the story has been pretty thoroughly debunked at this point, hasn't it? Especially since The Cage has exactly as many fight scenes (1) as Where No Man Has Gone Before. OTOH WNMHGB has considerably less (attempted) coerced sex.
 
I thought it was well-established that "too cerebral" was code for "too sexual".

I'm warming up to the idea of watching "The Cage" first, but for reasons expounded upon upthread, I'd be doing it on the 4th.
 
I thought it was well-established that "too cerebral" was code for "too sexual".

I'm warming up to the idea of watching "The Cage" first, but for reasons expounded upon upthread, I'd be doing it on the 4th.
You think The Cage was more sexual than all TOS episodes?
 
Doesn't matter what I think, it's allegedly what the suits at NBC thought. Barbara Eden's navel was too sexual for them.
 
That version of the story has been pretty thoroughly debunked at this point, hasn't it?

I'm only working with information available in 1966 ;)

Anyway, I like The Cage, it always kinda seemed like a hybrid between Forbidden Planet and what will become Star Trek, mainly because it borrows a lot of the visual aesthetic from it, but also the somewhat basic premise of the story(an ancient civilization destroyed by their folly, a lone blonde lady with a thing for the captain). But I like both, so I'm fine with that.

Regarding characters, Pike was a decent captain, calm, logical and deductive, almost Vulcan-like in dealing with the situation he was in. Though I'm always weirded out that he just ignores the distress signal at the start, that's just very un-Starfleety in retrospect. The doctor is a decent proto-McCoy, Spock is not very Spock like and I've always wondered how Star Trek would have been like if the Enterprise had a female first officer throughout the series, namely would it be less or actually more sexist than it was?

Interestingly, the framing story of a captain who's down in the dumps and who finds a new sense of purpose after a mission was reused, well several times, most notably in DS9's pilot Emissary , but most recently in this year's Star Trek: Beyond.

New Theory: Spock being injured and limping throughout the episode required the transplant of his smile muscles into his leg to restore his walking properly, that's why he's grinning like an idiot here, yet can't crack a smile later on. :D
 
Alrighty, I went and watched "The Cage". I even turned the color off on my TV for a more authentic 1966 convention-going experience. :p

So that was pretty interesting, but my friends at the convention who saw the other pilot say that it had mostly different characters? Wonder what it's gonna be like on NBC this coming Thursday in living color, with that Shatner guy who I remember acting all crazy on The Twilight Zone?
 
Alrighty, I went and watched "The Cage". I even turned the color off on my TV for a more authentic 1966 convention-going experience. :p

So that was pretty interesting, but my friends at the convention who saw the other pilot say that it had mostly different characters? Wonder what it's gonna be like on NBC this coming Thursday in living color, with that Shatner guy who I remember acting all crazy on The Twilight Zone?

Shatner? I think I saw him in a Outer Limits episode...
 
Great idea for a thread. I am glad we are starting with The Cage. I am currently watching it on Netflix. I always liked the early scene with Captain Pike and Dr. Boyce. I think this scene would have worked really well with Kirk and McCoy. It is very typical of their dialog. I would have been interested in seeing Kirk and company do this episode. Maybe make it a two-parter like Gene Roddenberry wanted it to be (trying to get Jeffrey Hunter to come back and film new scenes to expand the episode) I know that the shortage of scripts forced them to use the original pilot to keep on track, but I wonder if they considered using the script but redoing the episode with Shatner and company
 
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