Well, it wouldn't be the first time the "underlings" said "screw you" to the boss when they got what they wanted. It happened once or twice to that Davros chap as I recall.
32X13 The Wedding of River Song (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS
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Well, it wouldn't be the first time the "underlings" said "screw you" to the boss when they got what they wanted. It happened once or twice to that Davros chap as I recall.
Well there's always been a bit of wiggle room in what constitutes a "fixed point in time." The Doctor's death clearly was, but the events of Waters of Mars probably weren't.
We've seen the Doctor be wrong about stuff PLENTY of times in the past, so it's not a surprise that he got that wrong too.
A fixed point in human history is fixed, but a fixed point in timelord history is fixeder, maybe even fixist.
Thinking about it.
Time couldn't heal itself because it didn't have cart blanch over the Doctor.
It's like when you're picking at a scab and new scabs and old scabs grow towards each other and then meet up make fault lines grating against one another and never really sealing.
Take the arrow out before you put the bandage on the arrow hole.
Thinking about it.
Time couldn't heal itself because it didn't have cart blanch over the Doctor.
It's like when you're picking at a scab and new scabs and old scabs grow towards each other and then meet up make fault lines grating against one another and never really sealing.
Take the arrow out before you put the bandage on the arrow hole.
There wasn't a death in the Waters of Mars. There were many deaths with the base being destroyed, and there were no survivors. The Doctor changed that with three survivors, one of whom took her own life.
In this episode, the Doctor replaced himself with a tin man who was 'killed' by River Song. He is now fated to face his fate on the plains of <place name>.
The madame appeared to be a servant, like the unnamed species, of the Silent. I know that they want to destroy the Doctor because they fear he will answer a question, and his answer will destroy them. This implies that the Silent was created when the question was asked initially, and that they exist because it hasn't been answered. So, who asked the question, and how did this create the Silent? What connection is there to the Doctor to this question? One thing leads to another.
When I consider these overly complex and ad hoc story arcs with their conspiracies, unanswered questions, and vague antagonists, I think back to what Scotty said in the third movie:
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
In this episode, the Doctor replaced himself with a tin man who was 'killed' by River Song. He is now fated to face his fate on the plains of <place name>.
The madame appeared to be a servant, like the unnamed species, of the Silent. I know that they want to destroy the Doctor because they fear he will answer a question, and his answer will destroy them. This implies that the Silent was created when the question was asked initially, and that they exist because it hasn't been answered. So, who asked the question, and how did this create the Silent? What connection is there to the Doctor to this question? One thing leads to another.
When I consider these overly complex and ad hoc story arcs with their conspiracies, unanswered questions, and vague antagonists, I think back to what Scotty said in the third movie:
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
And that could make sense of what future-girl Lorna Bucket said - "He meets a lot of people. Some of them...remember. He's sort of like a... I don't know... a dark legend."
And why's she called Melody Pond? She should be called Melody Williams.
I feel this way about the entire season. I enjoyed it, but can't help feeling I'm one step behind. From episode 2 onwards I felt lost.
I've enjoyed this season but at times I've wondered what the fuck was going on.
Time didn't reset itself in Waters of Mars, Adelaide Brooks reset time.
Last year, I was often defending Moffat from accusations that his stories were a bunch of ideas covering up a weak story. I think for that series, the ideas added flavour to the stories, but that they were great in their own right. With this finale, I can see how they felt. The ideas are all fantastic, and I enjoyed them. But the plot itself was paper thin. If all you were after was the creative spectacle, the deliciously multi-flavoured ice cream Moffat was serving, then you were in for a treat. But if you were after something more nutritious, you were out of luck. The spectacle was fun, but this year's arc left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Hopefully, next year's return to more standalone stories (unless Moffat was lying about those too) will help wash that away. 
^ Amy didn't take Rory's last name either. It happens.
Well, Melody is born in 5145 on an asteroid. Could be that the conventions there are different from the here and now and that Amy just went native.
We don't know that, the Doctor called them both Pond but we don't know what her legal name is.
I'm guessing that it's Pond since we've not heard it been called Williams since they got married. It's true we've not seen or heard any legal documentation but given the comment I assume that they both have decided to keep their own last names.
My marriage license did not change my name. I had to go to the Social Security Office with an official coy of the license to get my name legally changed. Amy and Rory left with the Doctor during their reception. Not sure how it works in England, but it sounds likely that she never legally changed her name.
Well, that was... interesting. The opening sequence was kind of cool, all of history happening at once. The "Please don't feed pteradactyls" sign was hilarious, and all the various things like a horse and chariot at street lights, Emperor Churchill at Bunkingham Senate and Charles Dickens giving a preview of A Christmas Carol were aweosme.
Something I'm wondering, what exactly is the deal with the infamous story people like to tell that the only way that the Nation Estate would allow the Daleks to be used in Nu Who is if they would be used every year. I've heard other people claim this story is bogus, but every year we've had either Dalek episodes or episodes with Dalek scenes that weren't really relevant to the plot, like the flashback scene in The Waters of Mars or the Dalek seen in this episode. The only possible reason I can think of for including these is if they were under contractual obligation to show Daleks. Yet, people who are otherwise reliable claim this is not the case. So what is the deal?
On a related note, when we saw the Doctor from the Dalek's perspective, why was it coloured normally as opposed to tinted blue like all other Dalek point of view shots have been, even the New Paradigm's?
So the Doctor was going to call the Brigadier up only to learn that he had died? After learning this we see him playing around with his envelopes. Is this supposed to mean that the Doctor was considering intviting the Brigadier? And if so, why didn't he invite any other former companions?
Interesting way to bring Dorium Maldovar back, and once again he proved to be as fun as ever. Looking forward to seeing him potentially return.
So we seem to be setting things up for the remainder of Matt Smith's run with what seems to be an epic final battle that could very well end in regneration. Overall, it was an entertaining finale. I enjoyed it, I can't find much to complain about though I wouldn't call it one of my favourite finales.
One last thought, nothing about the Christmas special? Couldn't have something like "The Doctor will return Christmas 2011 in [Insert Title]"?
Oh, I almost forgot. The Question? It made me groan. And I mean groan.
Something I'm wondering, what exactly is the deal with the infamous story people like to tell that the only way that the Nation Estate would allow the Daleks to be used in Nu Who is if they would be used every year. I've heard other people claim this story is bogus, but every year we've had either Dalek episodes or episodes with Dalek scenes that weren't really relevant to the plot, like the flashback scene in The Waters of Mars or the Dalek seen in this episode. The only possible reason I can think of for including these is if they were under contractual obligation to show Daleks. Yet, people who are otherwise reliable claim this is not the case. So what is the deal?
On a related note, when we saw the Doctor from the Dalek's perspective, why was it coloured normally as opposed to tinted blue like all other Dalek point of view shots have been, even the New Paradigm's?
So the Doctor was going to call the Brigadier up only to learn that he had died? After learning this we see him playing around with his envelopes. Is this supposed to mean that the Doctor was considering intviting the Brigadier? And if so, why didn't he invite any other former companions?
Interesting way to bring Dorium Maldovar back, and once again he proved to be as fun as ever. Looking forward to seeing him potentially return.
So we seem to be setting things up for the remainder of Matt Smith's run with what seems to be an epic final battle that could very well end in regneration. Overall, it was an entertaining finale. I enjoyed it, I can't find much to complain about though I wouldn't call it one of my favourite finales.
One last thought, nothing about the Christmas special? Couldn't have something like "The Doctor will return Christmas 2011 in [Insert Title]"?
Oh, I almost forgot. The Question? It made me groan. And I mean groan.
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