24th Century Scout Ships
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Lots of ideas here, though still all on the too large side of things (the Shi'Kahr-Class has a nice look to her, definitely fits in with the time period I have in mind, though might have to do what Masao Okazaki when he designed the U.S.S. Sagittarius and think about how a scaled down version might look).
Are you thinking of ships in the Maquis Raider size?
Something around that size, maybe a little bigger but definitely under 100m. Her size would be an asset, useful for being overlooked on long-range scans.
Only if powered down. If a scan can spot a 600m+ Galaxy at 10 light years, it's not really going to be challenged by a mere sixthing of the size. Less power output would be more of a factor, but you'd probably WANT a scout to have a fairly powerful warp engine for its size...
Huh? There were two different versions of the Centaur?
Yes. There was the scaled-down physical model Adam Buckner built for the Dominion war in DS9, and the Eaglemoss CGI model made for their magazine, which was only loosely based on the physical model but scaled to the actual Excelsior class starship, which was then used in Prodigy.
I did not know that. Thanks.
Yep - here's a close-up pic of the "Buckner" with the Reliant-scaled bridge module:
And here's the Eaglemoss version, with the Excelsior bridge, making it instantly bigger, which is the version that PRO used:
So, my theory/head-canon is, the original USS Centaur (built as the USS Buckner - we never saw the top of the saucer with the name) existed as a member of the smaller Buckner-class frigate. Then, a whole new scaled-up class was later created and named after the Centaur, which I suspect operated with distinction during the Dominion War, and maybe was even lost in action.
I absolutely love the fact that this class got some love during PRO's run. It's my favorite of the DS9 Frankenfleet, despite the mixed-scales with the pieces used to build the original filming miniature. One day I'd like to make one of my own.
Update: EAS did a work-up on it here and someone mapped out the model parts here.
And here's the Eaglemoss version, with the Excelsior bridge, making it instantly bigger, which is the version that PRO used:
So, my theory/head-canon is, the original USS Centaur (built as the USS Buckner - we never saw the top of the saucer with the name) existed as a member of the smaller Buckner-class frigate. Then, a whole new scaled-up class was later created and named after the Centaur, which I suspect operated with distinction during the Dominion War, and maybe was even lost in action.
I absolutely love the fact that this class got some love during PRO's run. It's my favorite of the DS9 Frankenfleet, despite the mixed-scales with the pieces used to build the original filming miniature. One day I'd like to make one of my own.
Update: EAS did a work-up on it here and someone mapped out the model parts here.
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The interesting thing is that the Centaur (either version) was never given a canon/official class name (despite the ship being listed in the newest edition of the Star Trek Encyclopedia, probably because of Okuda going along with Sternbach's idea from the DS9 tech manual that the kitbashed models made for "A Time to Stand" were actual kitbashed ships in-universe, which is utter nonsense.) So we are free to speculate that the ships are two separate classes which happen to share a similar design despite being quite different in scale and surface detail.
(The question I have is why the Centaur was even used at all in Prodigy, since it's completely out of place alongside the Defiant, Akira and Sovereign classes that are shown to be Starfleet's main ship types of the time period. Obviously someone on the PRO VFX crew had an affinity for the ship
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(The question I have is why the Centaur was even used at all in Prodigy, since it's completely out of place alongside the Defiant, Akira and Sovereign classes that are shown to be Starfleet's main ship types of the time period. Obviously someone on the PRO VFX crew had an affinity for the ship
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Eight or so years after the Dominion War? I could see the Centaur type still being used. It would be nearing the end of its life span along with other starships based on the Excelsior platform, as that would be almost a hundred years old by that point in Prodigy. If the similarly aged Mirandas were still in use just prior and during the War, it would make sense the Centaurs would be in used for a little while after the war. The attack on Mars happens later and that might exasperate the situation for another few years. But by 2500 it seems they have been retired, with the oldest ships being Excelsior II-class and ships built in the 2350s and 2360s.
There are probably older starships still in service, but would not normally be recalled for a Fleet Maneuver.
There are probably older starships still in service, but would not normally be recalled for a Fleet Maneuver.
iirc the model they were using came from the Star Trek Resurgence game. i believe it was something paramount did as a stealth cross promotional thing.(The question I have is why the Centaur was even used at all in Prodigy, since it's completely out of place alongside the Defiant, Akira and Sovereign classes that are shown to be Starfleet's main ship types of the time period. Obviously someone on the PRO VFX crew had an affinity for the ship
The ship they use in Resurgence is similar to the Centaur but still has notable differences, such as an actual secondary hull with deflector dish instead of the Reliant weapons pod.
I know it might not be exactly what you want, but the La Sirena really was one of my favorite ships for what it tried to be.
1) Not UFP or StarFleet (Designed/Made)
2) Under 100 meters in length (The Kaplan F17 Speed Freightor is 85.57 meters in length)
3) It's a Cargo Vessel, not a scout ship.
1) Not UFP or StarFleet (Designed/Made)
2) Under 100 meters in length (The Kaplan F17 Speed Freightor is 85.57 meters in length)
3) It's a Cargo Vessel, not a scout ship.
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Yes, but I really doubt there would have been that many of them still in operation at that time. They literally made up 1/4 of the entire Starfleet.
