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"24"; The Greatest Hits

Some of us keep droaning on and on about things this show didn't do right; and to be sure, we all have our opinions.

But c'mon. For those of us who sticked with it all these years, through the good and bad, what are some of the things this show got right? Casting? Plots? Twists? Style? Looking back on 24 what were some of the greatest hits..

And as a warning to all who read this thread and haven't seen the show? I suggest you do NOT read any further because I am opening thread up to ANY spoiling you want to do to further the discussion. So, if you haven't seen the show, I would suggest you move along for your own safety.

Rob
 
The death of Teri at the end of season one was a good shocker.

The detonation of the nuclear bomb and Mason's sacrifice in season two is probably the finest moment in the entire series.

Lynn McGill's sacrifice in season five made for a pretty moving send-off for a character who was mostly a weasel.
 
^^ all of those. And thanks for mentioning mason's name..i forgot it in another thread.

I really liked when Jack SHOT mason as the start of season two...really came out of nowhere...

Rob
 
Jack didn't shoot Mason to start season two. He shot that one prisoner and then sawed his head off!

One of the big early twists in season one was when Alan York turned out to be Kevin Carroll. Of course, after that, it sort of got old.
 
Season 1. When Jack says "Hello, Alan," in the limo and Alan shoots at the bullet proof glass, and Jack doesn't even blink and yells, Where's my wife!!!" I think his name was Alan. And, of course, the end. It never got any better than that.
 
Jack didn't shoot Mason to start season two. He shot that one prisoner and then sawed his head off!

One of the big early twists in season one was when Alan York turned out to be Kevin Carroll. Of course, after that, it sort of got old.

He sure did shoot mason..in the knee cap as I recall..after cutting the guys head off..if I recall correctly...

Rob
 
Mason wouldn't have been running around on the mission that got him exposed to the radiation had he been shot in the leg and unable to walk.

Jack did shot him with a tranquilizer in season one.
 
"I'm gonna need a hacksaw." -- My all time favorite line.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, the last few minutes of S7, when the imam comes to see Jack in the hospital and offers him a way to absolution. A really lovely scene that says so much about the evolution of the show and the character.

When the blonde chick was revealed as the Islamic extremist, and she kills Reza. That was the point that I realized how much I had bought into the "Muslim as bad guy" idea generally, and I appreciated 24 calling my bluff.

David dumps Sherry at the end of S1. Right in the middle of the election. Awesome.

Jack being tortured to death in S2. I really hadn't expected them to Go There.

Jack executes Chappelle (S3?). Ditto. That was the most heartbreaking thing ever.

A gravely injured, doped up President Wayne Palmer (I know!) drops dummy nuclear bombs on Nameless Middle Eastern Country just to make his point in S6.

Jack gets Shanghaied by the Chinese (S5) -- and returns (S6) even more damaged than before.

First Lady Martha betrays President Logan in S5.

Teri's death, S1. I was spoiled for it by the time I saw the show on DVD, but it still packed a punch.
 
Jack executes Chappelle (S3?). Ditto. That was the most heartbreaking thing ever.

I found this to be one of the most contrived plot points in 24 history with their need to shock for the sake of shocking.

BAD GUY 1: "There's a guy named Ryan Chappelle at CTU who is looking into your history. He might find out about your daughter."

BAD GUY 2: "How'd you know he was looking into my history?"

BAD GUY 1: "Because of our history-looking-into machine."

BAD GUY 2: "Okay, well then one of our demands will be to have him killed."

BAD GUY 1: "Won't someone else just take over what he's doing?"

BAD GUY 2: "I don't understand the question."
 
24 Things 24 Got Right. (No particular order.)

1. The real time thing. It's been fudged with the last few seasons but the "gimmick" of it was a fun and a good selling point for the show. I'm glad they kept it and wished they were a little "truer" to it. (Granted travel times have to be fudged but there's sometimes where they just completely fake it.)

2. The action. This show had a surprising amount of good almost theatrical levels of action on a TV show budget. The helicopters at the stadium in Season 2, the raid on the terrorist compound in Season 4 and so much more.

3. Killing Teri Bauer. When I saw Season 1 I already knew this would happen, but between the sepia tone "flashbacks" of Jack's last meaningful interactions with her and Kim 24 hours prior and the silent-countdown was very well played.

4. Creating an icon action hero. Jack Bauer will live for a long time as one of fiction's greatest action heroes. He shares the ranks with the likes of Chuck Norris, Batman, James Bond, Captain Kirk and many others. Jack Bauer is an American Icon.

5. President Palmer. A man who truely seamed like a meaningful, disciplined and honest man who'd make a great President. (Who'd get utterly eaten by the Republicans.)

6. Sherri Palmer. Never will there be another woman on TV who'll I'll so much love to hate. Her agendas, her scheming and her planning made her an utter bitch. But the actress played her off very, very well. A woman you really hated but she made it fun.

7. Chloe O'Brian. Another character who'll live along side Jack as an iconic character but in a total different way. From her presumed Aspergers, her social awkwardness, her snark and her mad hacking skillz and brilliantly played by Mary Lynn. I feel so bad for hitching on the bandwagon in S3 calling her "Potato Face" along side TWOP's recaper/forums. I hated her in Season 3 but quickly began to find her awesome and indispensable.

8. Jack's honor. Jack's got a great honor about him. When he gives someone "his word" you know he means it with his ever dying breath as he will fight to keep it. A man who puts his Country and his Mission above all else. Yeah his daughter will certainly pester him with personal BS, but even then Jack is only momentarily pulled off task. If only he could learn to put his phone on silent-alert.

9. The Marwan Season. This season was over the top. It was the first step in 24's descent in to madness. But this season was so much fun you just revel in the madness.

10. Event Episodes. Plenty of times over the series "event episodes" occured that had you gasping for breath and unable to wait for the next episode.

11. The Nina Reveal. Again, I knew it was coming when I saw S1, but the reveal was nicely played.

12. The Nuke Going off in S2. Dramaticly well played in tone, music, effects, and reveal.

13. The Nuke Going off in S6. Shocking and, again, handled very well. The rest of the season? Eh....

14. Michelle Dessler. Another character who when she was introduced I didn't like her but as S2 wore on I really grew to like her, mostly for aesthetic reasons, but at the end of S2 she kicked ass and she kicked even more ass in S3. The closest we had to a female Jack Bauer until Renee Walker was introduced.

15. Casting. Throughout the series this show has always had some great casting.

16. Secondary Characters. With some notable exception the series has had some good secondary characters. Milo, Agent Pierce, Mike Novick, Michele Forbes' character in Season 2 and many others. This show has some great, great casting.

17. The personal connections in S1. Season 1 was about nothing else beyond one man's life. If Jack failed in his day's tasks the world would move on. Sure, the Democrat's secondary candidate would get the nominaton but by and large the world would've been the same. S1 was about Jack's family and saving one man's life. A man Jack had never met yet was devoted to saving. 24 has never really matched this as each season ramped up the "threat" in a law of diminishing returns.

18. Tony Almeda. Another great character who got railroaded. But before that Tony was awesome.

19. Bill Buchanan. The one CTU Divistric person with a brain in his head and one of the few people Jack carried enough about to consider a friend. That's good enough for me.

20. Season 7. Probably 24's, oh, fourth best season. Mostly from the recovery it made after the abysmal Season 6.

21. The opening moments of Season 5. Killing off Palmer, Michelle and -seemingly- Tony. Was pretty shocking at the time.

22. Kim Bauer: Her plot lines were mostly silly but silly enough to serve an interesting distraction during the main events of the day.

23. CTU. And Orwellian nightmare of an agency. But somehow slickly cool.

24. Everything that I've forgotten that I'll be reminded of in the course of this thread.
 
The acting. They really do get some top notch actors for the show.

And when everything clicks, the writing, the drama, the emotion, the acting... it clicks so hard your eardrums need replacing.

I can't remember which season this was in, I'm guessing 2? There was a scene with Jack in the middle of a field with Nina, and they were on the phone with Palmer. Palmer was basically okaying Jack's death, and the stuff between the two of them was just brutally fantastic, raw and powerful. Probably my favourite scene in the whole series. Funny I don't remember the details, but I sure remember the emotion.
 
yes it was a great scene..and it was filmed here in San Diego..

Maybe it was mentioned, but when Jack had to kill Ryan Chappell..that was gripping too..

Rob
 
The death of Edgar Stiles. I remember message boards blowing a collective gasket at that scene.
 
People were upset Edgar died? I thought that was good riddance to an annoying, useless character who never should've been promoted to series regular in the first place.
 
People were upset Edgar died? I thought that was good riddance to an annoying, useless character who never should've been promoted to series regular in the first place.

I think people were more annoyed that Edgar got a silent-clock death and then Tony in the very next episode did not.
 
From what I've seen so far, 5 episodes into season 5:
1. The death of George Mason.
2. The whole deal with the infected hotel in season 3.
3. The death of Ryan Chapelle.

The reveal of Nina as a mole didn't make much sense to me. To this day I don't know who she was supposed to be - a serbian spy, a german spy, a mercenary, a girl with a love for money and with a complete lack of morals or all of the above. As far as I understood, the show was never clear on this.
 
Nina was the first of the moles-who-made-no-sense, and we loved her for it ;)
She was the one villain on the show who Jack had a truly personal hatred of because of their history together and the fact she had been directly responsible for his wife's death.

The whole convoluted mess was worth it for the
"You have no more useful information, do you?"
"Yes I do"
"No, you don't" *blam blam*
scene. A Jack Bauer iconic moment.
 
One thing I liked most? 24's creator is an admitted right winger. The show took a lot of flack from the left for so called "bigoted" plots. I remember reviewers bashing this show for daring to have "GASP"..... middle-eastern bad guys. As if only badguys could be from Europe, like Dennis Hopper, with white skin.

But this show had Oriental bad guys, black bad guyes, latino badguys, russian badguys...not one pigment in the "rainbow coalition" got off the hook.

Thats what I liked about the show. We can all be good (Jack Bauer/David Palmer) we can all be bad (Nina/Sherry) and doesn't matter what part of the world you come from...

Just no bad Tibetans!!!

Rob
 
To be fair, the middle eastern terrorists in season four are kind of offensive. They don't seem to have any concrete political goals. They're supposed to be Muslim fundamentalists, but other than yelling "God is Great" the prerequisite number of times in Arabic, we never see them pray or take their religion seriously. One of the terrorists that season (the one who martyrs himself in a car accident when Jack is following him) has a big honking gold earing, not exactly something you'll find on a male Muslim extremist. And let's not get started on Marwan's "plan."
 
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