2009 - The Biggest Year Ever for Trek?

[TigerBait]

If McDonalds would just start making Kirk action figures already, we'd be set.


'cause you know a movie is big if they put plastic versions of it in Kid's Meals.

McDonald's? I'd like to see Toys R Us sell some Star Trek stuff. All I ever see there is Star Wars. And, which I don't understand why, because not everyone is a Star Wars fan.

I have this same feeling at the book store, especially in recent months. It seems that the book shelves are becoming more and more filled with old Star Wars novels, ones that came out more than a decade ago. While the Star Trek novels have now been relegated to a couple shelves down at your feet where noone looks, and the only ones they have came out in the past few years. There are no older Trek books, even at the Borders and Barnes and Nobles of the world.

Popularity I refuse to accept as a cause. There would have been more Trek books sold, had there been an option to purchase them. Many times I go to check to see what's available, and come away with nothing, as the inventory is gradually less and less.

 

[M'Sharak]

I don't deny Indiana Jones was a financial success, but it didn't blaze the box office sales, nor was it the summers smash it which everyone felt was a must see. In fact, after its opening weekend at number one, it essentially drizzled off until it got a bloated DVD release in the fall.

Expect the same pattern for Trek XI.

Indy made $320 Million domestic and another $460 Million elsewhere, if this is not a big impact then what is? Just Titanic?

By your reckoning 9.8 movies out of 10 simply have a big opening and then drizzle off to their DVD release.

He simply wants to movie to fail, using any flawed logic at his disposal. He can't get over the fact that a ship has a fucking zero in front of its registry, and because of that rather silly thing to argue about, he deems the whole film doomed to failure.

I suspect you may be misreading The Wormhole slightly. I very much doubt that he wants the movie to fail, for one thing.

 

[Therin of Andor]

You're welcome I had one of my threads closed for no reason, too. I understand my thread was kind of pointless, but so are 80% of the other threads in this forum are too, but they don't seem to get closed

IIRC, Plumster's first version of this thread was only closed because the first entry was simply the commandment, "Discuss". When starting a new thread, the poster is expected to make more of a contribution than a clever thread title.

In any case, 2009 with probably rank about as significant for Star Trek as did 1979 (the premiere of TMP) and 1986 (the success of ST IV and the announcement of TNG).

 

[Gepard]

I suspect you may be misreading The Wormhole slightly. I very much doubt that he wants the movie to fail, for one thing.

And there's the whole "he's a satirist" thing. Maybe. Just a minor detail.

I don't know why I even bring it up. Oh look cake.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Popularity I refuse to accept as a cause. There would have been more Trek books sold, had there been an option to purchase them. Many times I go to check to see what's available, and come away with nothing, as the inventory is gradually less and less.

The bookshops learned a long time ago that avid Star Trek fans were one of the earliest adopters of online book shopping.

There are new ST novels coming out every month, and many ST fans have every new title pre-ordered from Amazon.

 

[darkshadow0001]

You're welcome I had one of my threads closed for no reason, too. I understand my thread was kind of pointless, but so are 80% of the other threads in this forum are too, but they don't seem to get closed

IIRC, Plumster's first version of this thread was only closed because the first entry was simply the commandment, "Discuss". When starting a new thread, the poster is expected to make more of a contribution than a clever thread title.

Right. But the reason why Plumster said only "Discuss", was because his topic was pretty much what the title of the thread said-- "2009 - The Biggest Year Ever for Trek?". That's all he needed to ask... why ask the same question again?

 

[Therin of Andor]

The title of the thread said-- "2009 - The Biggest Year Ever for Trek?". That's all he needed to ask... why ask the same question again?

I think Plumster was expected to give a list of reasons for why it was so, so others could debate, add and discuss.

 

[trekkerguy]

If McDonalds would just start making Kirk action figures already, we'd be set.


'cause you know a movie is big if they put plastic versions of it in Kid's Meals.

Burger King is going to be doing Star Trek themed kids meals.

Indy was a " Sucess" in money terms and I got a feeling Lucas will try to Milk Indy one more time or maybe even 2 more times.

I don't deny Indiana Jones was a financial success, but it didn't blaze the box office sales, nor was it the summers smash it which everyone felt was a must see. In fact, after its opening weekend at number one, it essentially drizzled off until it got a bloated DVD release in the fall.

Expect the same pattern for Trek XI.

Comments like these from the "fanbase" only assures me more that this is going to be a big hit.
The more the "fanbase" rags on it or sees only moderate success, the more likely it's to be a big hit to the general public.

 

[Plumster]

You're welcome I had one of my threads closed for no reason, too. I understand my thread was kind of pointless, but so are 80% of the other threads in this forum are too, but they don't seem to get closed

IIRC, Plumster's first version of this thread was only closed because the first entry was simply the commandment, "Discuss". When starting a new thread, the poster is expected to make more of a contribution than a clever thread title.

Right. But the reason why Plumster said only "Discuss", was because his topic was pretty much what the title of the thread said-- "2009 - The Biggest Year Ever for Trek?". That's all he needed to ask... why ask the same question again?

Less is more chaps.

The title was sufficient IMO - why labour the point - the year 2009 is significant is it not for the franchise?

Anyway........

 

[shapeshifter]

...Hypothetically yes, it could be the biggest year for the franchise ever.

Personally, it IS going to be the biggest Trek year I ever had. This movie is one thing dominating my thoughts whenever I am idle. I haven't been this jazzed since TMP and it just keeps getting more and more intense each day, especially since it is now officially 2009.

*takes cold shower*

 

[M'Sharak]

IIRC, Plumster's first version of this thread was only closed because the first entry was simply the commandment, "Discuss". When starting a new thread, the poster is expected to make more of a contribution than a clever thread title.

Right. But the reason why Plumster said only "Discuss", was because his topic was pretty much what the title of the thread said-- "2009 - The Biggest Year Ever for Trek?". That's all he needed to ask... why ask the same question again?

Less is more chaps.

The title was sufficient IMO - why labour the point -

No. Therin was correct: an opening post consisting solely of the title and "Discuss" has never been considered sufficient and is nearly always considered clangworthy. That's the way it has been here for years; just ask TEH BABA. If you wish to make a topic of that issue, then the Questions, Suggestions & Feedback forum is where it belongs, not here.

Now, if we could find the real topic here, instead of trying to conduct an impromptu M.A. thread?

 

[darkshadow0001]

Right. But the reason why Plumster said only "Discuss", was because his topic was pretty much what the title of the thread said-- "2009 - The Biggest Year Ever for Trek?". That's all he needed to ask... why ask the same question again?

Less is more chaps.

The title was sufficient IMO - why labour the point -

No. Therin was correct: an opening post consisting solely of the title and "Discuss" has never been considered sufficient and is nearly always considered clangworthy. That's the way it has been here for years; just ask TEH BABA. If you wish to make a topic of that issue, then the Questions, Suggestions & Feedback forum is where it belongs, not here.

You're point is correct, too, but I guess I don't understand why one would have to ask the question in the title then again in the body. But yeah, before this thread gets closed too, let's continue on with the discussion.

 

[Plumster]

IMO, and as ever, M'Sharak jumped in and closed the thread because it offended some sensibility I'm not party to. Oh well.

The scale of the question is clear and let's be clear about this, 2009 could make or break Trek as a commercial property for the studio.

Either it goes supersonic and is around in a cinematic format for the next how ever many years, or it's quietly shelved and the pedants get their own way by keeping a niche product alive in their own image doing fan productions and books of limited readability for a few thousand die hards......

I think this year is that big for Trek.

 

[darkshadow0001]

Maybe we need a new mod?

I just want to see more Star Trek toys in stores. I really don't understand why it has to be just Star Wars... Yeah, Star Wars hit it big back in the day, but I still think Star Trek is a bigger and better franchise.

 

[The Wormhole]

Indy was a " Sucess" in money terms and I got a feeling Lucas will try to Milk Indy one more time or maybe even 2 more times.

I don't deny Indiana Jones was a financial success, but it didn't blaze the box office sales, nor was it the summers smash it which everyone felt was a must see. In fact, after its opening weekend at number one, it essentially drizzled off until it got a bloated DVD release in the fall.

Expect the same pattern for Trek XI.

Indy made $320 Million domestic and another $460 Million elsewhere, if this is not a big impact then what is? Just Titanic?

By your reckoning 9.8 movies out of 10 simply have a big opening and then drizzle off to their DVD release.

Indeed, I do actually hold to the opinion that nearly every movie simply has a big opening weekend and drizzles off until DVD release. And I also feel there hasn't been a true hit in theatres since Titanic. Now before we go further, understand, I hate Titanic, but it stayed at number 1 in the weekend box office for four fucking months. It was a box office smash, even I can't argue with those results.

Though, I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised The Dark Knight lasted nearly an entire month at number 1. But, I don't see that happening for Trek. For one thing, there are several movies with lots of buzz coming out in the weeks after its release, one of which is Harry Potter. Understand, I hate Harry Potter, but even I can't argue that he's got undeniable popularity.

And besides, look at Iron Man, the first of last summer's big hits. It had what, two weeks as number one and then drizzled off into DVD? Trek XI will be released the same weekend as Iron Man was, expect the same results.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Maybe we need a new mod?

For requesting that we follow board etiquette?

 

[darkshadow0001]

Maybe we need a new mod?

For requesting that we follow board etiquette?

Maybe the board etiquette is not adequate enough for some users.

 

[clint g]

I dunno about te Biggest Ever but its certainly the biggest year since I was born (1987 for those who arent in the know lol). If Trek does well, we can see the birth of renewed interest in the franchise. if it does poorly then Trek is pretty much good and done.

 

[btflash]

Maybe we need a new mod?

For requesting that we follow board etiquette?

Maybe the board etiquette is not adequate enough for some users.

problem is... it's not applied to everyone equally.

 

[MisterPL]

I just want to see more Star Trek toys in stores. I really don't understand why it has to be just Star Wars... Yeah, Star Wars hit it big back in the day, but I still think Star Trek is a bigger and better franchise.

"Back in the day?" Are you aware that there's an ongoing TV series on Cartoon Network? Retailers love tie-ins but Trek hasn't had much to hook them with in recent years.

But I agree. It'll be fun to see Trek figures hanging on the pegs in the mass market again.