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2 Questions regarding Starfleet Death Penalty.

Mutara Nebula 1967

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1. Why would visiting Talos IV be worthy of the death penalty? Yeah, there's some aliens that can cast illusions but....

2. In all the TREK series what planet truly SHOULD be so off limits as to going there would invite the death penalty?
 
Mutara Nebula 1967 said:
1. Why would visiting Talos IV be worthy of the death penalty? Yeah, there's some aliens that can cast illusions but....
Because it's more dramatic for Spock to be on trial for his life than a $5,000 fine and weekends in jail.

2. In all the TREK series what planet truly SHOULD be so off limits as to going there would invite the death penalty?
Kronos. If we have to see the grossly overdone Klingons ONE MORE TIME, I'm going to kill the writer! :mad:
 
Originally, it was a great idea to show how dangerous the idea of realistic illusion was. It was so bad that the wonderful Federation would actually kill you for just going there. The threat? The Talosians' power of illusion was so powerful, that illusion became more important than reality. They stopped creating and their civilization became stagnant. (That would explain the shitty job they did fixing up Vina, also.) I think that did a great job of stressing the desperate terror that those in the know must have been feeling to create such a rule.


It does get me thinking, though, what about the holodeck?
 
This is one I've always been pondering. Surely there must be other planets that have greater reasons for being 'no go' areas. In addition, this rather goes against the general theme of the Federation, where the worst that would happen to you as a result of their judicial system is a slap on the wrist and a trip to Disneyworld!
 
i don't know about Talos IV but if any they should have made the planet from Plato's stepchildren a truly forbidden planet. i mean fair enough the talosions could mess with your mind but for god sake those people could make you do what ever they wanted!!!
 
Well, not really - all they can do is make your muscles do their bidding, and apparently only at visual ranges at that.

So just beam down with a comm channel open and make it clear that if they try to be funny, death will rain down on their little palaces. Or get inoculated with their telekinesis dust before the beam-down.

Now that dust is the bigger problem. If it also works outside that planet, trafficking in it should probably be the one death penalty in the books. :eek:

Dramatic logic aside, what else could Starfleet have done about Talos? The planet had to be declared off limits without revealing why. Even Starfleet's own flag officers like Commodore Mendez didn't know the actual reason. Surely that would pique the curiosity of people both honest and dishonest. How to discourage them?

Only two ways to go about it, really. One, create a cover story. Two, create a deterrent. Pain of death would probably be very effective in a Federation that otherwise doesn't go for harsh punishment at all. Today, it would not have the same impact, so the equivalent deterrent would probably have to be something like "death of entire bloodline (except for mother-in-law) by months-long torture"...

But personally, I would have tried the cover story approach instead.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I could see travel to the planet where the Guardian of Forever is located carrying a death penalty, at least unless you're specifically authorized to be there.

Hell, I'm sure Starfleet brass discussed the idea of destroying the planet just because the potential risks are too high.
 
Just occured to me that The Guardian of Forever was most likely picked up by enterprise and promptly shipped to Cheyanne Mountain a la SG-1.
 
I'd like to object to that notion in that I am quite sure Talosians can be shut down, too. If only permanently.
 
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