16-year-old girl arrested for punching dad who tried to spank her rear

[warriorsfan]

Re: 16-year-old girl arrested for punching dad who tried to spank her

The dad was just keeping his pimp hand strong.

 

[SeerSGB]

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said by Tachyon Sheild
and the problem here is clear. You are painting all parents with the same brush. You had a bad experience with one of your parents who went too far and over the top when it came to disciplining you and now you're under the false impression that all kids who are disciplined go through the same kind of thing when they don't. I got the slipper now and again or a crack from my mother. It taught me to behave but didn't make me resent them, maybe if they beat me senseless then i'd hate them but that's not what happened.

Just try and realise not all parents or methods of discipline are as excessive as what you probably went through.

How do you know that this girl father wasn't the sort to go over the top when it came to discipline. I think spanking your daughter at 16 is way over the top. I don't think that my mother physically hit me once I was in highschool (she had turned to serious verbal abuse instead by then).

I was able to make both my two youngest sons behave without resorting to any form of physical violence. The only son that had problems was my eldest who was physically abused by his father. His father left when my eldest was 6 1/2 but my son had developed violent tendencies before then.

said by An Officer
I most definitely did not deserve it, one time it was because I had apparantly lost my watch (it turned out a cousin had stolen and hidden it)... the smacks usually came only because my mother wanted to show her relatives that she does discipline me the way they discipline their own.

I got beleted one Christmas Day because I complained to my brother had broken the little pocket clock I got as a prersent. The clock was in my room and he went in and overwound it. My belting was because "I let him do it".

We used to also get slaps for having too more than one hankie in our pockets andfor biting our nails (I still bite my nails). My mother used to make us hold up our dresses so that our grandmother, i.e. my father's mother, could see our bruises. My grandmother totally disapprove of physical punishment and raised both my father and his brother without it. They both turned out to be fine, upstanding citizens.

Let's see:

-- I got the switch for backtalking/disrespect-- had to cut my own switch
-- Got the belt for not picking up my toys
-- Got the belt for getting below a C in school
-- If I got a paddling or any punishment at school, I got a switching at home.
-- Got a belt if I was thought to be lieing-- even if I wasn't, just the assumption, evidence to the contrary be damned. "Men lie about something always"

Got it good when I corrected my mother-- who was wrong as day-- about something, and when I got home she wailed on me, then got me again the next morning for "embarrassing her in public"

When I talked to other family or teachers I got "Spare the rod, spoil the child, you've gotta learn your lesson". Good old "Christian family morals"-- as I was often told.

Yeah I learned it: Once I was stronger than her I didn't have to take her shit, I hold no special attachment to my parents one way or the other-- if they dropped dead today, I'd sell off everything they owned, flip the bird to my surviving family and be a ghost, and if you're going to break the rules just do it in such a way as to not get caught.

 

[Miss Chicken]

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My eldest sister, Vicki, used to get hit the hardest. This was because she refused to make a sound when she was belted. She didn't want to give Mum the satisfaction of hearing her cry or scream so she bite her lip. This really frustrated Mum and so she hit Vicki twice as long and twice as hard.

My sisters like me decided not to hit their children as a form of discipline. All of their children were well behaved as children (excluding Vicki's severely autistic son) and have turned out to be decent adults.

 

[SeerSGB]

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My eldest sister, Vicki, used to get hit the hardest. This was because she refused to make a sound when she was belted. She didn't want to give Mum the satisfaction of hearing her cry or scream so she bite her lip. This really frustrated Mum and so she hit Vicki twice as long and twice as hard.

My sisters like me decided not to hit their children as a form of discipline. All of their children were well behaved as children and have turned out to be decent adults.

Been there. If I didn't apologize, I got it again till I did.

Hells, I got "discipline" for being to smart. Yes, that's correct. I was in AP classes most of my educational life, and if I corrected someone or showed someone up by, you know by doing a silly thing like doing something correctly, I was "disciplined" for "being a smartass" or a "know it all".

 

[JimCasy]

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Been there. If I didn't apologize, I got it again till I did.

Hells, I got "discipline" for being to smart. Yes, that's correct. I was in AP classes most of my educational life, and if I corrected someone or showed someone up by, you know by doing a silly thing like doing something correctly, I was "disciplined" for "being a smartass" or a "know it all".

Damn. I thought my parents were bad for not liking the fact that I read a lot.

 

[SeerSGB]

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Been there. If I didn't apologize, I got it again till I did.

Hells, I got "discipline" for being to smart. Yes, that's correct. I was in AP classes most of my educational life, and if I corrected someone or showed someone up by, you know by doing a silly thing like doing something correctly, I was "disciplined" for "being a smartass" or a "know it all".

Damn. I thought my parents were bad for not liking the fact that I read a lot.

When I was growing up, there was was being smart and being a "smart ass".

I was pushed to be smart, pushed to stay on the honor rolls, pushed to do extracurricular educational activities. But if I showed it or showed prided in it, I was in deep trouble. I even had teachers that were that way "You better not fail <insert class/test>, or you're on probation/discipline." But when the AP students studied outside class and actually advanced past the study guides and what the teacher thought was "acceptable educational sources"*, we caught hell.

It wasn't till I was taking AP/Pre-Collegiate classes in highschool that I ran up on teachers that wanted us to study beyond the curriculum guides and wanted us to try to prove them wrong.



* -- In many cases "acceptable educational sources" was only books in the school library or publications that the teacher deemed to be "safe".

 

[All Seeing Eye]

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so you all suffered from harsh discipline from parents who went too far so that automatically means that all disciplining like a slap on the leg is 'the great evil'. I was disciplined by getting slaps and cracks and i'm better for it, I respect my parents and my parents are great people and only had my best interests at heart. Not all parents who discipline their kids with a slap are the spawn of satan or take pleasure in doing it.

 

[Miss Chicken]

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One boy in my class got into trouble for telling a teacher that he was wrong about something. The next day he bought a volume of Encyclopedia Britannica to school to prove his point. As punishment for this was made to write "My teacher knows more than the Encyclopedia Britiannica" 100 times.

 

[Miss Chicken]

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so you all suffered from harsh discipline from parents who went too far so that automatically means that all disciplining like a slap on the leg is 'the great evil'. I was disciplined by getting slaps and cracks and i'm better for it, I respect my parents and my parents are great people and only had my best interests at heart. Not all parents who discipline their kids with a slap are the spawn of satan or take pleasure in doing it.

Trying to spank a 16 year old girl is going to far. At 16 there are countless other ways a child can be disciplined.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

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Trying to spank a 16 year old girl is going to far. At 16 there are countless other ways a child can be disciplined.

Spanking a 16 year old girl on the arse and slapping her in the face is yes 'going too far' and creepy, but IMO you're never too old to get a crack across the back of the head, even I still get cracks off my mother if i'm ever a cheeky twat, and you know what I do? I laugh even when it hurts.

 

[RyanKCR]

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My eldest sister, Vicki, used to get hit the hardest. This was because she refused to make a sound when she was belted. She didn't want to give Mum the satisfaction of hearing her cry or scream so she bite her lip. This really frustrated Mum and so she hit Vicki twice as long and twice as hard.

Granted I don't know the whole situation but based on this it would seem that your sister had some serious rebellion issues. I see the same attitude in my one niece and she's not "hit."

 

[Miss Chicken]

Re: 16-year-old girl arrested for punching dad who tried to spank her

My eldest sister, Vicki, used to get hit the hardest. This was because she refused to make a sound when she was belted. She didn't want to give Mum the satisfaction of hearing her cry or scream so she bite her lip. This really frustrated Mum and so she hit Vicki twice as long and twice as hard.

Granted I don't know the whole situation but based on this it would seem that your sister had some serious rebellion issues. I see the same attitude in my one niece and she's not "hit."

Are you seriously suggesting a child who, in her own way, stands up when she is being abused, has serious rebellion issues? My mother would beat us with a hairbrush until we were bruised black and blue. Why shouldn't my sister 'rebel' against that.

My sister was never in any trouble at school, she never caused problems in the neighbourhood. She was a generally a quiet child who was very protective of others and a very sensible girl.

I clearly remember how she took control of the situation during the 1967 bushfires. We were walking home when we saw that houses were on fire on the hill we had to walk up to get home. Snakes were coming out of the long grass and coming down the street. My sister quickly gathered up about 20 children and made us all return to the school where she told the teachers of the dangerous situation.

 

[RyanKCR]

Re: 16-year-old girl arrested for punching dad who tried to spank her

My eldest sister, Vicki, used to get hit the hardest. This was because she refused to make a sound when she was belted. She didn't want to give Mum the satisfaction of hearing her cry or scream so she bite her lip. This really frustrated Mum and so she hit Vicki twice as long and twice as hard.

Granted I don't know the whole situation but based on this it would seem that your sister had some serious rebellion issues. I see the same attitude in my one niece and she's not "hit."

Are you seriously suggesting a child who, in her own way, stands up when she is being abused, has serious rebellion issues? My mother would beat us with a hairbrush until we were bruised black and blue. Why shouldn't my sister 'rebel' against that.

My sister was never in any trouble at school, she never caused problems in the neighbourhood. She was a generally a quiet child who was very protective of others and a very sensible girl.

I clearly remember how she took control of the situation during the 1967 bushfires. We were walking home when we saw that houses were on fire on the hill we had to walk up to get home. Snakes were coming out of the long grass and coming down the street. My sister quickly gathered up about 20 children and made us all return to the school where she told the teachers of the dangerous situation.

As I said I don't know the whole situation but they way you put it sounded rebellious. Example: My niece when not around her parents is the sweetest and nicest person and we hear a lot of good things about her. Get her parents involved and it is a whole other situation. If she is not the center of attention she blows up. When she over-reacts to a small issue at, for example, one of her sister's birthday parties and is sent to her room she ignores what she is told and then begins hitting, kicking and screaming how she hates her parents, etc. when her dad insists she goes to her room by taking her there himself. Or at camp she cries everyday to come home. Or when starting school for the first time since being homeschooled decided to run the other way then the bus arrived and laughing about the whole thing each time it is brought. She is not like this when she is around my wife and I because we don't let her get away with it. She's controlling and when she get's into trouble she "stands her ground."

 

[Dorian Thompson]

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If she's old enough to have breasts and pubic hair, she's too old to be spanked on the bottom, especially by a male parent. How sexually inappropriate and gross. Dad's probably a pervert.

 

[Lookingglassman]

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If she was my kid and she did this to me I would be in jail for beating the heck out of her. I figure if I am going to jail then I might as well make it worth it.

 

[Miss Chicken]

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As I said I don't know the whole situation but they way you put it sounded rebellious.

Did you read any of my posts before that one? Because I had previously stated some of the trivial things we received physical punishment for

including

*Having more than one hankie in our pocket
*Having bit nails

In both of these cases my mother would line us and make us empty our pockets. We would then have to put the extra hankies down in front of us. Then we would have to hold out our hands and Mum would count the bit nails, she would add this number to our tally. Then she would hit us across the knuckles with a ruler. Do you really thing that this was normal discipline.

* A belting because my brother broke my clock. It didn't matter that he entered my room without my permission when I wasn't even in the room and wound the clock. I walked in and found him with the broken clock in his hands. I was belted for allowing him to break the clock.

My sister summed it up well when she says that Mum would look for any reason to belt us on a Saturday so she could the bruises to Grandma on a Sunday. She and her mother-in-law didn't get on. Mum knew Grandma disapproved of children being hit so on Saturdays she hit us to spite Grandma. Sometimes she did the bit nails/hankie scene in front of my gran. In the end my grandmother told my Dad he could bring us children for a visit but not to bring my mother.

 

[RyanKCR]

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As I said I don't know the whole situation but they way you put it sounded rebellious.

Did you read any of my posts before that one? Because I had previously stated some of the trivial things we received physical punishment for

including

*Having more than one hankie in our pocket
*Having bit nails

In both of these cases my mother would line us and make us empty our pockets. We would then have to put the extra hankies down in front of us. Then we would have to hold out our hands and Mum would count the bit nails, she would add this number to our tally. Then she would hit us across the knuckles with a ruler. Do you really thing that this was normal discipline.

* A belting because my brother broke my clock. It didn't matter that he entered my room without my permission when I wasn't even in the room and wound the clock. I walked in and found him with the broken clock in his hands. I was belted for allowing him to break the clock.

My sister summed it up well when she says that Mum would look for any reason to belt us on a Saturday so she could the bruises to Grandma on a Sunday. She and her mother-in-law didn't get on. Mum knew Grandma disapproved of children being hit so on Saturdays she hit us to spite Grandma. Sometimes she did the bit nails/hankie scene in front of my gran. In the end my grandmother told my Dad he could bring us children for a visit but not to bring my mother.

Have you noticed how you are using extreme, unusual and abnormal cases to condeme all discipline? I'm not saying what happened to you was not right but should we also drop grounding? Using your logic here is why: my wife, in high school, was doing something after school with the school and they changed the location. She forgot to call her parents and tell them. She was grounded for a week for that.

 

[Cicero]

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Have you noticed how you are using extreme, unusual and abnormal cases to condeme all discipline? I'm not saying what happened to you was not right but should we also drop grounding? Using your logic here is why: my wife, in high school, was doing something after school with the school and they changed the location. She forgot to call her parents and tell them. She was grounded for a week for that.

Corporal punishment is by its nature different. It is violence, even in mild forms.

 

[RyanKCR]

Re: 16-year-old girl arrested for punching dad who tried to spank her

Have you noticed how you are using extreme, unusual and abnormal cases to condeme all discipline? I'm not saying what happened to you was not right but should we also drop grounding? Using your logic here is why: my wife, in high school, was doing something after school with the school and they changed the location. She forgot to call her parents and tell them. She was grounded for a week for that.

Corporal punishment is by its nature different. It is violence, even in mild forms.

Verbal abuse or hints of you're not good enough can be just as bad, maybe worse. Not saying that happened to my wife but she was so scared of getting B's in school and one of my classmates got grounded for about a week or a month for getting a B+ on a report card.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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16 is way too damn old for spanking. She should get a medal for fighting back. If either of my parents had hit me when I was that old, I'd have kicked their asses. Last time I got it was when I was nine, and I fully admit I deserved it (my dad had dropped me off at a movie theater, and I noticed that ST:TMP was also playing there. So I went to see it instead. Unfortunately I wasn't there when he came to pick me up again, and so he was justifiably pissed off about it.). After that, though, I was just too fucking OLD to be spanked.