1960's and risqué clothes?

I think that’s the thing...fashions of the time. Seven was on screen when the Spice Girls were a thing. Catsuits were a fashion thing, an empowering thing (like the minis in the sixties) and to be honest, I can’t speak to the US, but here in Britain you would see more revealing outfits on a Friday night out clubbing, and even just day to day. Skirts that were about an inch beyond qualifying as a thick belt. Fashion is a funny fickle thing. The difference I suppose is between choosing to wear a thing and being told to in some way.

Oh, and despite being a goth/raver at the time, where the club clothes were even...less...sometimes, it’s normal clubs where the Trek stuff would be fairly tame.

People forget this when railing against Lara Croft too.

 

Not so uncommon in human history. There are, and no doubt have always been, cultures in tropical climes where it's normal for people to go naked, but still with the expectation that women, at least, would position themselves in public in a way that would not overtly display the genitals unless they specifically intended seduction. So preserving modesty while wearing very little is an ancient human skill. (Perhaps men to some extent as well, though that's not as easy to manage.)

As for the TOS uniforms, those were more mini-culottes or "skorts" than miniskirts per se, so there were brief-cut shorts built into the dress, like leotards with skirtlike flaps added to make them look like minidresses. So it wasn't like the women would actually risk flashing their panties or anything. Modern tennis dresses tend to work much the same way, and so did the TV Supergirl's costume before this season.

 

I guess that's sort of the thing.
Kirk's uniform on the ship is pretty much the same as Picard's.
(Then Next Generation tried to keep with tradition that mini skirts were normal.
They even had men wearing them, BUT not ANY main character males. )
Why is it that only women have """fashion""" assigned to them?
I thought the best part about Next Generation was that in season three everyone had the same uniforms.(for the most part)
As it should be. Otherwise it's not a uniform at all.
I guess I thought when I was young, that some day women would smarten up and not let themselves or choose to be objectified.

 

EPEE is for the less enlightened.
It basically has no rules.

 

Hey McCoy got a T-Shirt. XD

In all seriousness it’s because Male fashion doesn’t undergo the seismic changes that female fashion does. Once you’ve decided you don’t want buttons and collars and zips, there’s pretty much naff all you can do. The off duty wear? Rikers shirt lives in the memory for a reason. Besides which, does no-one remember the dress uniforms? Not to mention various spandex concoctions, including the series one uniform.
The shows operate in the social setups of the time...look at Uhura office wear uniform in STIV.
I would not deny there was never an element of ‘sex sells’ in there, but it’s not as heavy once you look at what actual people were wearing, and what they thought of what they were wearing at the time.

Guest star costumes and civvies? That’s where the crazy is.

 

This was Pre-Code so things were a lot less strict. Sadly, after this, Maureen was in a one piece and was more motherly than anything else. Even Johnny's loin cloth was redone to cover more.

 

Well honestly, what she has on is pretty stupid. It my serve a modesty cover but really? Why not have it go between her legs?
I don't think I ever saw this movie or show, but what she has on there would possibly what a person would whip together for the short run, then later they would make it actually functional for what they are attempting to do.

 

I think that’s the point. And it does go between her legs.

 

Well, there is a pretty famous part of the movie where, depending on which cut you see, she's wearing far, far less.

 

If you mean the nude swimming scene, that was actually an Olympic swimmer named Josephine McKim doubling for Maureen O'Sullivan.

 

But we're talking about what the character wears and whether it's practical in her in-story circumstances, as opposed to the circumstances of an actress or swimming double in a movie. So the "she" I was referring to was the character of Jane Parker [sic], whom O'Sullivan and McKim were both portraying.

 

One comic strip artist, I think it was either Mort Walker or Chic Young (of Blondie fame), got the censors to leave him alone about navels when he drew a case of (Labeled!) navel oranges with all the navels showing. They sent him a note to not go overboard with the ladies' midsections.

Another way of doing the same thing is what modern cheerleaders wear with their uniform skirts; a color-coded brief to go over their underpants called 'spankypants'.

 

That was Walker. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1984/12/ms-buxley/304234/

 

What if they are doing it of their own free will and don't consider themselves as being objectified?

 

From the article on Mort Walker:

That would be news to all the soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen who, if memory serves, protested in droves when Stars and Stripes dropped Beetle Bailey.

Given that my one brief experience with fencing (at a medieval fair at the university I attended) was with epee hardware and rules, I take exception to that. Epee is for the less anal-retentive. And it is a more realistic simulation of how actual rapier combat works.

I would say more like a figure skating dress. Although at the same time, according to the patterns given in FJS's Technical Manual, the "tunic" and "panty" are separate pieces (which, if I remember right, is occasionally also true of skating dresses). I will also note that there are some early episodes of Get Smart, in which 99 wore a culotte dress (the one I'm thinking of had horizontal red and yellow stripes), and at one time, the costume for (then exclusively female) Storybook Land Canal Boat cast members at Disneyland had a skort (far more practical than a skirt, given that the skipper's seat was at approximately seated adult eye level; nowadays, the role, and the costume, are gender-neutral).

 

I don't think those were authentic costume designs from the source, more just instructions on how fans could create reasonably accurate replicas.

 

I saw an outtake photo from a location shoot where the wind blows Benoist's skirt way up, and it looked like the blue tunic was a full body suit, and the red skirt was just a skirt.

And that costume was so much better-looking than her new ugly britches, it's unbelievable.