Picard series and lens flares?

JesterFace · Apr 29, 2019

Will the new Picard series have lens flares?
What do you think or wish? Trek movies and 'Discovery' use lens flares. Unfortunately.

I hate that. I just watched Discovery episode 8 of season 2. They just went overboard with lens flares.
These flashes take you away from the story, sometimes I start to wait for the next one and that's not what watching television is about. I'm not that fond of 'Disco' and sometimes feels that "okay, no more 'Disco', this is annoying".

Dukhat · Apr 29, 2019

Maybe.

Nerys Myk · Apr 29, 2019

JesterFace said:
These flashes take you away from the story, sometimes I start to wait for the next one and that's not what watching television is about.

Sounds like a "you" problem.

F. King Daniel · Apr 29, 2019

I hope there are lens flares reflecting off of Picard's scalp.

Ovation · Apr 29, 2019

I honestly cannot understand the lens flare hatred. It’s not like it hasn’t been around since the invention of photography.

Tosk · Apr 29, 2019

Yeah, but it wasn't usually cultivated as a fake artifact of filmmaking the way it is now. It's gone from a by-product of pointing a camera at a light source to something to intentionally splash across actors faces for no real reason other than it supposedly looks cool. (Or some think it subconsciously tells you that what you're watching is more realistic, like the fake dust on the lens they add during effects sequences.)

starbuck · Apr 29, 2019

dont think it will be set on a ship to have any

Ovation · Apr 29, 2019

Tosk said:
Yeah, but it wasn't usually cultivated as a fake artifact of filmmaking the way it is now. It's gone from a by-product of pointing a camera at a light source to something to intentionally splash across actors faces for no real reason other than it supposedly looks cool. (Or some think it subconsciously tells you that what you're watching is more realistic, like the fake dust on the lens they add during effects sequences.)

It’s a tool in the filmmaker’s toolbox. I can understand a lower or higher degree of tolerance for its use (quantity and quality) but it’s not inherently bad. I guess I have a high tolerance for it as it’s never been bothersome to me.

Damian · Apr 29, 2019

Not a big fan of lens flares. Like anything I can ignore it unless it gets to be too much. Star Trek (2009)....way too much. STID was much better in that regard. They were there but I didn't find it distracting.

With Star Trek (2009) it was lens flares galore. It really started getting distracting. I started thinking, why the hell are there so many flashes, I can't even see what's going on in half the scenes.

I remember a time when flares were considered a mistake. But then I prefer stable steadicams and smooth filming. Not to say shaky cameras don't have a place. But say in a seen where it's a dialogue scene I have a hard time understanding why you want the camera shaking and have lens flares for something like that.

Tosk said:
like the fake dust on the lens they add during effects sequences

Not a huge fan of that either. I find it ruins some great effects shots. Like Star Trek (2009) there were some great space effects shots that I thought were ruined by 'space dust'. I understand that less than lens flares. In space shots, ok, I can see a few flares here and there as they pan near a star. But why would there be space dust? It made no sense.

Like I said, STID was much better in that regard. Abrams was more judicious about flares and dust. That's all I really ask. It doesn't need to be every shot.

Bry_Sinclair · Apr 29, 2019

I hope not, I find they give me some bad headaches.

Tosk · Apr 29, 2019

Ovation said:
It’s a tool in the filmmaker’s toolbox. I can understand a lower or higher degree of tolerance for its use (quantity and quality) but it’s not inherently bad. I guess I have a high tolerance for it as it’s never been bothersome to me.

Of course, each person thinks differently about it, just like every other production decision. I agree that lens flares are not inherently bad. But just because something is not inherently bad doesn't mean isn't sometimes bad.

WarpFactorZ · Apr 29, 2019

Damian said:
Like I said, STID was much better in that regard. Abrams was more judicious about flares and dust. That's all I really ask. It doesn't need to be every shot.

Really? Tell that to Alice Eve. During Carol Marcus' plea to her dad to destroy her with the Enterprise, you almost can't see her because of the flare!

Damian · Apr 29, 2019

WarpFactorZ said:
Really? Tell that to Alice Eve. During Carol Marcus' plea to her dad to destroy her with the Enterprise, you almost can't see her because of the flare!

I thought it was much better than Star Trek (2009) in that regard. I'm not saying they weren't there...just that Star Trek (2009) seemed to have them in 90% of the movie. STID maybe had it down to 50% :hugegrin:

(I honestly don't know the true breakdown, but it didn't seem nearly as prevalent)

Nerys Myk · Apr 29, 2019

Bry_Sinclair said:
I hope not, I find they give me some bad headaches.

That sounds like something you should discuss with a medical professional.

NewHeavensNewEarth · Apr 30, 2019

I take it you don't like pulsars then, such as in TNG's "Allegiance" episode.

Agony_Boothb · Apr 30, 2019

King Daniel Beyond said:
I hope there are lens flares reflecting off of Picard's scalp.

I was coming here to say just this. Stewart is coating his scalp in baby oil as we speak.

Lord Garth · Apr 30, 2019

Lens flare. We'll still have to hear about this for at least 10 years after they actually stop using it. New Star Trek series in 2035... "They'll have lens flare!" No they won't. "Yes they will!" It'll never be lived down. "Lens flare!"

Tosk · Apr 30, 2019

Let me know when they don't use it in new Trek and we'll start counting from there.

mos6507 · Apr 30, 2019

Tosk said:
Let me know when they don't use it in new Trek

As long as there's Alex Kurtzman involved, there will be flare.

Ovation · Apr 30, 2019

mos6507 said:
As long as there's Alex Kurtzman involved, there will be flare.

(For both) :nyah:

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