I think you'd make a great conspiracy theorist.
SPOILERS: Jason Isaacs out??
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I think you'd make a great conspiracy theorist.
I was under the impression Isaacs was brought on for his star power. They rode Lorca all the way then threw him under the bus. Job done. He was not supposed to be the lead. If he rocks up for Season Two I wouldn't object but again there is a risk of these 'support' characters stealing the show. Season Two already has Pike and Number One and Spock! At some stage the Discovery crew have to stand alone.
Nor was he attacking you.
I thought they were setting up exactly this (or something very similar) when it was revealed, first, that the Emperor knew about the Federation and kept it hidden from everyone but her closest advisors, and then, second, revealed that Lorca had once been one of her closest advisors. But no, he just turned out to be a moustache twirling baddie with the depth of cardstock.
It wouldn't exactly shock me to see Lorca return in some fashion - not only from a story standpoint, because we don't know what the status of Prime Lorca is, but because Jason Isaacs likes working in Toronto. I met him at Dragoncon this year, and at his autograph table, I asked him specifically if he enjoyed working here. He said that he and his family like Toronto so much, when he asked them where they wanted to go for their summer holidays, they responded that they wanted to come here. It kind of boggled him that they would want to come here for vacation, but that's how much they like the city. So if it gave him another chance for a trip to Toronto, no matter how brief, he might well go for it.
(He then said, "You're from Toronto? Why are you here, and not at Fan Expo?", which was happening here on the same weekend. Every actor who recognizes my accent or notices that my badge says Toronto on it asks me that...)
(He then said, "You're from Toronto? Why are you here, and not at Fan Expo?", which was happening here on the same weekend. Every actor who recognizes my accent or notices that my badge says Toronto on it asks me that...)
They didn't "throw him under the bus." Isaacs was not fired, nor did he quit. He signed on to play Lorca for one season, and one season only, and that is exactly what he did. He was never intended to be a permanent member of the cast.
What?? I said *Lorca* was thrown under the bus. The character looked like a prat in the end.
Save for the fact that Issacs' has hinted at a possible return for Prime Lorca. And Issacs has not demonstrated any reluctance towards the character or Trek in general. He has demonstrated a lot of positivity towards the production and enjoyment. So, I am doubtful that he wants an "out."
I admit I wasn't a huge fan of the "mirror" plot twist, but I still liked Lorca.
Sure, he manipulated the crew into getting him back to his own universe, but while he was ON the ship he did everything he could to help win the Klingon war. I don't think he bore the crew any ill will or anything like that - he just wanted to get home. (His real life in the MU is none of their concern, after all.)
And about that: Burnham said that if Lorca had just admitted he was from the MU and openly asked for the crew's help, that they would have gladly done it. I wonder how true that was.
The one thing Lorca did that I hated, was sleeping with Cornwell. No wonder she was pissed. He posed as his own counterpart in order to get her into bed. (Although it does raise the point, did he have a thing with MU Cornwell as well?)
She's probably still chained to the wall in his basement, waiting for him to come back.
Isaacs not only made a big show on his social media about being really excited about his Star Trek role, he continues to be so even after it ended. He showed up to Destination Star Trek in October wearing a DISCO shirt and full of positivity about his time on the show. What's your source for him not liking it?
I don't understand the premise of this thread. Isaacs has left the show.
True, but having him play the alternate (Prime) Lorca is easy enough, and less convoluted than time travel. Michelle Yeoh is back after Prime Georgiou died, isn't she?
Yeah -- it was said he was dead, but the people who said that could easily have been wrong.
Wait, someone said Prime Lorca is dead? I don't remember that, and at the very least, the novels have made it very clear he is alive.
No one said he was dead, they just assumed he was.
There is no proof of his death.
Yup. It's really not that complicated.
I'm pretty sure that that what we saw is all we are probably going to see of him. Barring, of course, some sort of future reappearance because fans responded so enthusiastically to him. But I think it would probably only be along the lines of how Thomas Riker showed up in DS9.
Why? Perhaps he is promoted and heads off on a new expedition.
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