^ I'd be freaked out and, quite frankly, a bit sickened if I found somebody simulating me. There should be privacy protections to prevent that, I'd hope.
If you were able to use the Holodeck
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Yeah, but look at the applications of recreating yourself or others. a doctor could experiment on a holographic Picard's mechanical heart before actually operating on him. Mr. Mott could give a holographic version of you an experimental haircut before he actually cut your hair.
If I was a bridge officer, & I was training, I'd want an exact recreation of bridge conditions, including crew, which is exactly what Troi has for her commander's exam. Sure there's a line between that & making people your fantasy play things... but it's a pretty thin line & even Troi recognizes that there's a therapeutic value to the fantasy aspect of it
If someone at work is intimidating you, & you want to overcome that, then bam, or any social condition you want to correct. I realize that's not entirely how he was handling that, but still...
If I was a bridge officer, & I was training, I'd want an exact recreation of bridge conditions, including crew, which is exactly what Troi has for her commander's exam. Sure there's a line between that & making people your fantasy play things... but it's a pretty thin line & even Troi recognizes that there's a therapeutic value to the fantasy aspect of it
If someone at work is intimidating you, & you want to overcome that, then bam, or any social condition you want to correct. I realize that's not entirely how he was handling that, but still...
And then Geordi goes ahead and has the computer create a holographic Leah Brahms; in fact, it was the computer's suggestion and he's still kinda surprised by the possibility.
I guess famous historical figures are considered public domain, as Data has Einstein, Newton and Hawking playing cards with him, hardly a recreation of any historical accuracy. One has to wonder if that would also apply to 24th century "celebrities." Would famous figures be considered fair game, or only posthumous ones.
Kira certainly didn't appreciate Quark's efforts to recreate her, but of course she only pranked him back. Didn't seem like he faced any legal consequences (of course he rarely faced consequences for anything he did)
You could create a holographic Elvis without his drug addiction. I would never be the real person. Same goes for other historical figures: Henry VIII, Kahless, a holographic Shran, Khan, Martin Luther (reformer), Leonardo daVinci etc.
Honestly, I don't want to be one of Henry VIII's fictional holographic wives, considering the fates of two of them
Not to mention the sexual debaucheries hux would be fond of...
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Honestly, I don't want to be one of Henry VIII's fictional holographic wives, considering the fates of two of them
Not to mention the sexual debaucheries hux would be fond of....
The way they presented it in TNG suggested to me that it was acceptable to recreate real people (including colleagues) but it was generally frowned upon.
Voyager's crew seemed content to have exaggerated versions of themselves in Tuvok's training programme (for ships eyes only) but were far less content about the doctors exaggerated versions of them in "Photons be free" (available throughout the Federation).
Based on that, I think consent would only be an issue if the recreation was available to the public. If it's your private entertainment, fill yer boots (but discreetly) .
Voyager's crew seemed content to have exaggerated versions of themselves in Tuvok's training programme (for ships eyes only) but were far less content about the doctors exaggerated versions of them in "Photons be free" (available throughout the Federation).
Based on that, I think consent would only be an issue if the recreation was available to the public. If it's your private entertainment, fill yer boots (but discreetly) .
Recreating other people gets to the legal question of whether you are the owner of your likeness. It gets into the legal status of revenge porn which is being debated now. The way we see it in the show nothing is stopping anyone from creating naked images of people and selling them. When Quark tried to do it with Kira it was implied she had no legal recourse, that her only way to stop him was to either never have a three dimensional image taken or sabotage his program.
And I have to wonder in that episode if making the image of Kira was legal for Quark to do, how can it be legal for Kira to sabotage Quark's private property in retaliation? Was Kira taking advantage of her position as 1st officer?
I guess it could be analogous to the 24th century equivalent of photoshopping. It's not really them, & in a privately owned domain like Quark's, it's feasible that it would be legally unpreventable. In Baclay's case, he's serving as an officer onboard a Starfleet vessel, and using institutional resources to create this stuff, which is analogous to using your work computer to write pornographic fanfic about your coworkers, & then during a system check, the IT guys finds it & reports it, or leaks it & it gets back to your boss or something. I'd think that would be actionable
I think the problem Quark was having wasn't that he couldn't use Kira's image, is that his client wanted it to be 100% accurate, and Kira wasn't going to go in for that. A reasonable version of Kira made from whatever they use would have worked normally, but the client was very picky.
I remember the Troi episode but haven't seen the Kira image episode! This reminds me of the Babylon 5 film where they had a sex computer device and one of the customers was using Commander Lochley's image in purple knickers and suspender belts and she was less than happy when she found out about it!
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I would use it to learn kung fu. 
