"The Conscience of the King": Plot Holes and Questions.

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  1. Push The Button

    Push The Button Commodore Commodore

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    It is too bad that Kirk never met up with the real
    Finnegan later in the series or in any of the films. I'm hoping that we have a nu-Finnegan (and a nu-Janice too) in the next JJ movie.
     
  2. Mytran

    Mytran Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Thanks, I thought it was in there somewhere. Funny, I never noticed before that the half-console near the view screen has no actual controls. Just an information display booth, perhaps?
     
  3. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    He was reunited with Finnegan in Peter David's story arc toward the end of DC Comics' first volume. Since it was a Peter David story, Finnegan was as much of a prankster as ever. (David later wrote an annual that showed a version of Kirk's first year at the Academy, including his clashes with Finnegan.)
     
  4. GSchnitzer

    GSchnitzer Co-Executive Producer In Memoriam

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    For it's worth, we have Finnegan in our "flashback-to-Cadet Kirk" episode Origins: The Protracted Man:"

    [yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db5LXPLmCac[/yt]
     
  5. GSchnitzer

    GSchnitzer Co-Executive Producer In Memoriam

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    Both the Engineering Sub-Systems Checkout Station (just port of the Main View Screen) and the Defense Systems Monitor Station (just starboard of the Main View Screen) are both "half stations." They generally have no chairs and are unmanned. The Engineering Sub-Systems checkout station actually does have some control interface on the "desktop" surface of the console, in addition to the four winky-blinky displays. But the Defense Systems Monitor Station doesn't have any control interfaces--just the four monitor screens. ("Looky but no touchy.")

    Nice McMaster blueprints here:

    http://starfleetmodelacademy.com/images/NCC-1701_BRIDGE_PLANS.pdf
     
  6. Mytran

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  7. GSchnitzer

    GSchnitzer Co-Executive Producer In Memoriam

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    Yes. That's the WNMHGB panel we're talking about--although those white drop-in control panels were relocated to corridor walls later in the first season. Some similar (but a more blending-in black-colored) panels replaced them (well, re-replaced them). Interestingly, those two half stations sometimes have chairs and sometimes they don't. (For example, they have chairs but are unmanned when Kirk and Spock walk by the "front" of the bridge at the end of "The Doomsday Machine.")
     
  8. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    JimZC, I disagree with you here; I always took Kirk's reactions to Ruth as one one lost love/longing. If you have ever run into a woman you were once in love with--but the relationship was interrupted by anything other than anything in a category of "bad experience," then you will understand Kirk's behavior.

    His expression/behavior said he was immediately placed back at the point when he was fully invested in her; at first, he could not believe his eyes (considering the nature of the planet), but he fell into a longing remembrance of what was--obviously--a special part of his past.

    The direction and Shatner's believable, careful performance did not require a page of dialogue to convey what he was feeling.
     
  9. Mytran

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    For years I had it in my head that the starboard half-console had a sort of quarter - circle's worth of controls on the desk, quite bizzare. I now realise where I got that idea from:
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    Quite apart from the fact that there's clearly room for a full half circle's worth of controls on the desk, there's not even a chair there. A curious artistic choice.
     
  10. LMFAOschwarz

    LMFAOschwarz Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Another curious artistic choice is the positioning of the characters. Sulu seems to have Kirk at some disadvantage here, based on Kirk's body language, he seems more...indecisive than usual. In fairness, though, maybe he's just getting used to life with no legs. :lol:

    And Spock, standing at a distance, looking somehow helpless to get involved...
     
  11. DonIago

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    Sulu's just not happy that Kirk accidentally sent out everyone's salary info on an open channel.