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These Are The Voyages, Season 3...

Warped9

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I have quite enjoyed the first two volumes.

Anyone have any idea when we can expect Volume 3? I heard it might be in the fall.
 
Haven't read anything about these books that makes them sound worthwhile; they're demonstrably full of errors of fact and failures to properly attribute photographs, etc.
 
^As Kirk said to Nils Baris, "There's no accounting for taste."

Hey, why hasn't that guy who always turns up in these threads shown yet? Do we need to say some really nasty stuff to draw him into the open, or maybe just leave a trail of triticale crumbs?
 
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I've read the first two volumes. They're not the most amazingly written books in the world, but the level of detail and information contained - particularly about the scripting and rewriting (and rewriting) of each episode is incredible and makes for fascinating reading. So the author makes a few silly errors and offers some odd opinions, the good far outweighs the bad. I really don't understand all the negative opinions the books have been attracting on this forum.
 
Haven't read anything about these books that makes them sound worthwhile; they're demonstrably full of errors of fact and failures to properly attribute photographs, etc.

I'm in the same boat.

Thirded. I was gifted the first volume and that's the only reason I have the thing.

More over, I've not been impressed with how Cushman himself handles himself when approached about these egregious and glaring errors.
 
My issue is with all of the mistakes, how can I be sure what I'm reading is accurate? I'll cite a new one from the season 2 book, from the "By Any Other Name" chapter.

"Composer Fred Steiner provided a partial score, combining new compositions with tracked music from past episodes. The reason for creating new music at this point in the season was because nothing in the library worked well when Scotty was getting Tomar drunk. The music Steiner provided mixed as nicely as an aged oak scotch. Also recorded at this session, from December 22, and courtesy of Mr. Steiner, was the 'flag music' for the upcoming episode, 'The Omega Glory.'"

Here are the errors in this paragraph:

"The reason for creating new music at this point in the season was because nothing in the library worked well when Scotty was getting Tomar drunk."

-This sequence is tracked with music from "The Trouble With Tribbles" ("A Matter of Pride"). Steiner did not write any music for this sequence.

"The music Steiner provided mixed as nicely as an aged oak scotch."

-The music, as mentioned above, was tracked from "The Trouble with Tribbles" and was composed by Jerry Fielding.
-The correct terminology should be "oak aged scotch".

"Also recorded at this session, from December 22, and courtesy of Mr. Steiner, was the 'flag music' for the upcoming episode, 'The Omega Glory.'"

-That session was on December 27. This information is available in the Star Trek - The Original Series Soundtrack Collection box set.

Neil
 
I've read the first two volumes. They're not the most amazingly written books in the world, but the level of detail and information contained - particularly about the scripting and rewriting (and rewriting) of each episode is incredible and makes for fascinating reading. So the author makes a few silly errors and offers some odd opinions, the good far outweighs the bad. I really don't understand all the negative opinions the books have been attracting on this forum.
It might have something to do with the "level of detail and information contained".
 
Haven't read anything about these books that makes them sound worthwhile; they're demonstrably full of errors of fact and failures to properly attribute photographs, etc.
Goody for you.

There's nothing in my statement that you can fairly take issue with. The books are demonstrably full of errors of fact and failures to properly attribute material including photographs taken from other sources. You know this is true.
 
From what I've heard of these books so far, I'd prefer to just read the research files themselves and draw my own conclusions from the data. Now that would be worth paying for.
 
My issue is with all of the mistakes, how can I be sure what I'm reading is accurate? I'll cite a new one from the season 2 book, from the "By Any Other Name" chapter.

"Composer Fred Steiner provided a partial score, combining new compositions with tracked music from past episodes. The reason for creating new music at this point in the season was because nothing in the library worked well when Scotty was getting Tomar drunk. The music Steiner provided mixed as nicely as an aged oak scotch. Also recorded at this session, from December 22, and courtesy of Mr. Steiner, was the 'flag music' for the upcoming episode, 'The Omega Glory.'"

Here are the errors in this paragraph:

"The reason for creating new music at this point in the season was because nothing in the library worked well when Scotty was getting Tomar drunk."

-This sequence is tracked with music from "The Trouble With Tribbles" ("A Matter of Pride"). Steiner did not write any music for this sequence.

"The music Steiner provided mixed as nicely as an aged oak scotch."

-The music, as mentioned above, was tracked from "The Trouble with Tribbles" and was composed by Jerry Fielding.
-The correct terminology should be "oak aged scotch".

"Also recorded at this session, from December 22, and courtesy of Mr. Steiner, was the 'flag music' for the upcoming episode, 'The Omega Glory.'"

-That session was on December 27. This information is available in the Star Trek - The Original Series Soundtrack Collection box set.

Neil

Je-sus! So the real question is how did he get it THAT wrong? And how serious of a fan is he, when anybody who has seen these shows five or eleven or thirty-two times KNOWS it is Fielding music reused for the Scotty drinking scene.
 
I didn't know who wrote what music.

Like I say, some weird errors, but it was the writing process for each episode that most interested me - all the memoes flying back and forth from the producers and script editors - fascinating stuff.
 
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