To each their own. I felt they had no substance to them, no coherent plot.
[SPECULATION] After The Fall - the next major event?
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To each their own. I felt they had no substance to them, no coherent plot.
I absolutely love the way Cryptic did exactly that in STO, evoking a pioneer spirit after the Romulans overcome a decades-long bereavement mentality: New Romulus (Dewa III in-game).
Now that sort of thing could help meld the necessity (or near-enough) of Romulus' loss with the promised return to optimism and discovery. If the focus is on the Romulan people bravely rediscovering their roots and rebuilding their nation with help from the UFP and everyone else, that could be very cheering and inspiring.
It is also something that could be done to actually strengthen the ties between Romulans and Vulcans as well. The Praetor has already been friendly with the Federation recently, would be amazing to see them become like the Klingons, and become part of the Federation, or at least on that road.
Ah, then Trek's "canon rules" are every bit as messed up as Wars' after all! Shame that.
Oh well, if Pocket are hell-bent on giving me reason not to buy....
I enjoyed both of Abrams' Trek films but I don't want things to be skewed in the books due to them, as it's gotten quite interesting. That and Kamenor's a fascinating character.
I don't see what's so messed up about it, or how Trek and Wars are unique in this regard. Tie-in material for any franchise needs to stay consistent with the official canon. With ST and SW that means the TV series and movies. Is there any series that does it differently?
Indeed! I mean, I suppose there could be some franchise out there where the attitude is, "Do whatever you want, don't worry about being consistent with the TV show/movie you're based on, just make sure we get our paycheck." But it seems improbable.
ST books have always had to be consistent with the ST TV shows and ST movies. This includes ST09 and STID. That's just all there is to it.
Indeed. They've been handed an epic status quo buster, to brush it under the rug would be a terrible waste. I want to explore a Trek universe post-Romulus.
Oh, and after Star Trek: The Fall comes Star Trek: The Getting Back Up.
If it was only about consistency, there wouldn't be any confusion.
No, the problem is over 'canon' and how it is / isn't applied. Starting to quite despise that term now, leads to all sorts of needless difficulties.
In any case, I'm sceptical that there was any consideration given to the books when the film was done. Does that mean it can't be made to work well for the books? That's been the high art of this kind of material for years but I wouldn't want to throw away the existing status quo with the Romulans, it's something different
No, the problem is over 'canon' and how it is / isn't applied. Starting to quite despise that term now, leads to all sorts of needless difficulties.
In any case, I'm sceptical that there was any consideration given to the books when the film was done. Does that mean it can't be made to work well for the books? That's been the high art of this kind of material for years but I wouldn't want to throw away the existing status quo with the Romulans, it's something different
Apparently the reason only Romulus was destroyed was to facilitate tie-ins like the Star Trek Online videogame. See this thread for details.
Why would there be? The books are read by a miniscule portion of the fanbase.
I don't understand, how or when was canon not applied? What sort of difficulties has it led to?
There wouldn't have been. It's a confirmed fact that only 2% of Trek's fandom bothers with tie-in material. Why should writers of a summer blockbuster worry themselves about a small fraction of the audience they are trying to expand anyway?
Well, to be more accurate, it's because of the tie-ins that Trek XI didn't go the original plan of having the entire Prime Universe wiped out.
They don't have to follow the films in the sense of "follow Nerada down the black hole and wipe out the novel 'verse", they have to follow the films in the sense that there needs to be two holes, one Romulus-shaped and one Spock-shaped, left in the novel 'verse setting. In 2387, Romulus is destroyed and Spock disappears, because that's a canonical on-screen event (unfortunately, in the case of the former, I'd say). The timeline isn't erased, it will continue on, only Spock's left for another one.
The issue is how the novels are going to cover the Hobus disaster and its aftermath - in detail, or acknowledged but not explored; in a manner reminiscent of Countdown or in their own very different way... and how those events, however they happen, will shape the story we have at the moment (I'm hoping Kamemor survives and that they take the most realistically optimistic path they can with it, myself).
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^ It's "Narada".
I thought that it would have been perfect for there to be a follow-up novel or miniseries called Star Trek: Rise.Oh, and after Star Trek: The Fall comes Star Trek: The Getting Back Up.
^Haha. I thought you might have been thinking of the Vashta Nerada from Doctor Who.
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