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Frank Miller Wants to Write Captain America

[Bucky walks into Steve Rogers's tent to find him changing into his costume.]

"I hate to barge in on you like this Steve, but may I--It's you! You're...."

"What are you, dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am?

"I'm Captain Goddamn America!"
You win the internet for the day. Use it well and for good, rather than evil. ;)

But ... but ... we're talking about Frank Miller. No matter how good your intentions, they'll get twisted to evil.

Or dark 'n' gritty, anyway.

<thinks about it>

No.

<doesn't even think about it>

No.
 
^^ :D

Frank Miller, of course, would fuck up Captain America like nobody this side of a drooling Texas homophobe could fuck up Captain America. Of course, Marvel completely jumped the shark with Civil War, if not before, so maybe it would be amusing to have him on the book, just to have something new to laugh about. Hmm. No, Marvel hasn't jumped the shark that much.

The uncomfortable truth is that Frank Miller was always a kind of a nutjob. I was pretty amazed, when I finally got some direct exposure to his "classic" Dark Knight Returns work, to discover that it presented an out-and-out fantasy of Batman recruiting an army of ^*!#-ing blackshirts to restore order to Gotham... and that practically no-one mentions this.
Well, you're fairly right. Frank Miller was always Frank Miller. But in the beginning, with Daredevil and Dark Knight, he was able to use his psychosis to inform his writing. Later on, the psychosis replaced the writing.

"I'm Captain Goddamn America!"
Bwahaha. :rommie:
 
Well, you're fairly right. Frank Miller was always Frank Miller. But in the beginning, with Daredevil and Dark Knight, he was able to use his psychosis to inform his writing. Later on, the psychosis replaced the writing.

Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good description of Frank Miller.

It really is a shame about Frank Miller, going all batshit crazy the way he has. He has, in my time reading comics, gone from "must-read" to "unreadable".

To be fair, it's still kind of a "must-read", just not in a good way.

Someone should give him a Wonder Woman comic, just to see how batshit crazy he goes with it. Then again it can't be much worse than Amazons Attack.
 
Yeah, from everything I've read it seems Frank Miller has always been Frank Miller, it's just that it appears that age had made him somewhat bitter and entrenched in his ideals. Another factor may be his relative success has convinced him that he can do no wrong. Not an unprecedented phenomenon with certain creative personality types. M. Night Shyamalan appears to have fallen into a similar trap and I suppose to a lesser, mostly benign extent: George Lucas.

But yeah, at this stage I'd say if anyone should be given a Black Mercy plant for his birthday, it's Frank. Let him live out his power fantasies, but leave the rest of the universe out of it! ;)
 
So, does that mean Cap would be drawn in black and white with a cigarette dangling from his mouth and all the panels will at night in the rain?
 
Maybe he should write a Captain America story for Marvel. Then, when his script is illustrated, Marvel's editors could change his "Cap" character to that of a psychotic right-wing Mirror Cap sort of figure.

And then the real Cap has to subdue him. :devil:
 
Maybe he should write a Captain America story for Marvel. Then, when his script is illustrated, Marvel's editors could change his "Cap" character to that of a psychotic right-wing Mirror Cap sort of figure.

And then the real Cap has to subdue him. :devil:
Been there, done that.
 
Yeah, from everything I've read it seems Frank Miller has always been Frank Miller,

The current Frank Millar is very much a result of substance abuse coupled with conservatism and paranoia. There was definitely a personality shift and not just something that was always there. If you look at Holy Terror, there is a slow and noticeable degradation in the quality of his penciling if you read it from beginning to end. So yeah something most likely drug/alcohol abuse caused a change in personality in the man.
 
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Yeah, I get that he was always conservative, but he seemed to go off the deep end. Like I said earlier. When he previously wrote Captain America for the Born Again storyline for Daredevil, I didn't get any hint of the crazy that makes me dread being allowed near that character today.
 
Yeah, I get that he was always conservative, but he seemed to go off the deep end. Like I said earlier. When he previously wrote Captain America for the Born Again storyline for Daredevil, I didn't get any hint of the crazy that makes me dread being allowed near that character today.
I thought he was a liberal when he started out in comics.
 
You know, he may have been. There are things he'd do that seem liberal, things that seem conservative. His run of Daredevil was a product of the 80s where there were calls for strong law and order and fears of drugs and vice ruining cities. These days, I tend to associate that with conservatives, but politicians like Joe Biden were certainly on the law and order bandwagon. He also had stories about abandoned Vietnam vets (but so did Ann Nocenti, so that doesn't narrow it down).

I guess I assumed based on his future thought process. He comes off sometimes as the Tom Clancy of the noir/crime/superhero comic. But it isn't accurate to say that you can find a clear political agenda in his early work, so I'll retract my previous comment in that regard.
 
He was always a pro-gun, zero tolerance, anti-government, libertarian, survivalist, anarchist, paranoid extremist-- basically the point where you can't tell the difference between Right Wing and Left Wing. :rommie:
 
Yeah, from everything I've read it seems Frank Miller has always been Frank Miller,

The current Frank Millar is very much a result of substance abuse coupled with conservatism and paranoia. There was definitely a personality shift and not just something that was always there. If you look at Holy Terror, there is a slow and noticeable degradation in the quality of his penciling if you read it from beginning to end. So yeah something most likely drug/alcohol abuse caused a change in personality in the man.

Far as I can tell the only thing that's changed is his ability or willingness to edit himself. This is not a totally new person that's materialized out of thin air, it's a person who's lost a certain measure of self control and self reflection in regards to his opinions.

Same thing appears to have happened with Mel Gibson. That guy was always nuts too.
 
Though in fairness to Gibson, the lunacy doesn't seem to have affected his work. Apocalypto was brilliant, IMHO. Of course, Mel's madness made him persona-non-grata I. Hollywood, while Millar still seems to have no problem working in comic land.
 
Yeah, I get that he was always conservative, but he seemed to go off the deep end. Like I said earlier. When he previously wrote Captain America for the Born Again storyline for Daredevil, I didn't get any hint of the crazy that makes me dread being allowed near that character today.
I thought he was a liberal when he started out in comics.

It's sometimes hard to believe that the guy who wrote this...

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...is the same guy who wrote this...

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