^I remember him, but don't remember making any connections between him and Cable at the time. I'm seeing it again tonight with some friends and I will look at him more closely.
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Discussion Thread - SPOILERS
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Admittedly it's all just circumstantial evidence, the hair, the apocalyptic setting, blue eyes, finding old X-items.
Vague enough that it doesn't take anyone out of the story, but taken with the post-credit sequence, which seemed to take place in ancient Egypt (speculation, again) I think it creates a nice little wink to the audience. After-all Cable and Apocalypse have been inextricably linked for decades in the comics.
Or I'm just seeing things that aren't there.
Vague enough that it doesn't take anyone out of the story, but taken with the post-credit sequence, which seemed to take place in ancient Egypt (speculation, again) I think it creates a nice little wink to the audience. After-all Cable and Apocalypse have been inextricably linked for decades in the comics.
Or I'm just seeing things that aren't there.
I loved it but wish I had not read all the spoilers ahead of time. There was no surprises which lessoned the impact.
Everyone in my theatre had a WTF was that reaction to the post credit sequence. If you are not comic fan you would not know what that meant at all. I am not complaining myself.
Everyone in my theatre had a WTF was that reaction to the post credit sequence. If you are not comic fan you would not know what that meant at all. I am not complaining myself.
X-Men: Days of Future Past
My Grade: B+
The umpteenth movie in the X-Men franchise but unfortuantely for us this one isn't titled "X-Men: We Have to Keep Making These or We Lose the Rights to the Franchise."
Set a decade or more after the ending tag scene in last year's "Wolverine" humanity and mutants are in the final gasps of a war where machines, called Sentinels, are hunting down both humans and mutants. The Sentinels were designed int he early-1970s but, apparently, had only fairly recently came into use where they over-thought their directive to kill all mutants by realizing breeding from normal humans can result in mutants so the Sentinels take a pro-active approach. As a result the world lies in ruins.
In a last-ditch effort to save the world the X-Men, teamed up with the Brotherhood, have decided to send Wolverine back in time to that catalyst point in the 1970s to perhaps prevents everything that's happened in the X-Men franchise since 2000.
The catalyst point being when Mystique killed the creator of the Sentinels as he's pitching the idea to world leaders. His death, at the hands of mutants, leads to the entire war. Wolverine is the only one who can survive the mental-transfer to the distant past due to his regenerative abilities making him the only viable candidate to make the trip.
Once there he must convince past-Xavier to team up with past-Magneto to stop past-Mystique.
The movie is combined effort to sort-of clean-up the muddy continuity of all of the X-Men movies to date by introducing time-travel to ret-con or de-con certain events and hopefully get things a bit more organized for the continuing franchise... Which is "sort of" pulls of, but still leaves questions open but when you introduce time-travel into an already muddy comic-book universe you pretty much give yourself infinite carte-blanches.
We get a nice role reversal between older-Wolverine and young Xavier, who is taking heroin, er, medication that allows him to walk but at the cost of his mutant ability of telepathy and mind control. In the past Wolverine has to be the solid man of reason and Xavier is the unstable man prone to let his emotions and rage get the better of him. The intervening years between "First Class" and "DoFP" have been a rough-ride.
The movie brings great entertainment value and action scenes, and a great display of the powers of "Quicksliver" who can move fast enough that inside of a second he runs around a room making changes to people's positions and objects in the room to effect an escape for him, Magneto, Xavier and Wolverine.
Then he kinda goes away. Seems to me he could have continued to be useful, but whatever. It's a scene that Avengers: Age of Ultron is going to have to work hard to really top because that was just a great, fantastic scene.
The movie is good, and really shows that Singer shouldn't have left the franchise in favor of Superman back in 2005. But this movie is good, a lot of fun, and I'm sure X-Men fans will get some enjoyment out of it as well as it undoes a lot of the pains of X-Men: Last Stand.
But, at the same time, it kind-of undoes pretty much the entire franchise save First Class.
Fun movie, good time. Stick around through the credits as there is a tag scene but unless you really know your X-Men comics/characters you're not likely to get it.
My Grade: B+
The umpteenth movie in the X-Men franchise but unfortuantely for us this one isn't titled "X-Men: We Have to Keep Making These or We Lose the Rights to the Franchise."
Set a decade or more after the ending tag scene in last year's "Wolverine" humanity and mutants are in the final gasps of a war where machines, called Sentinels, are hunting down both humans and mutants. The Sentinels were designed int he early-1970s but, apparently, had only fairly recently came into use where they over-thought their directive to kill all mutants by realizing breeding from normal humans can result in mutants so the Sentinels take a pro-active approach. As a result the world lies in ruins.
In a last-ditch effort to save the world the X-Men, teamed up with the Brotherhood, have decided to send Wolverine back in time to that catalyst point in the 1970s to perhaps prevents everything that's happened in the X-Men franchise since 2000.
The catalyst point being when Mystique killed the creator of the Sentinels as he's pitching the idea to world leaders. His death, at the hands of mutants, leads to the entire war. Wolverine is the only one who can survive the mental-transfer to the distant past due to his regenerative abilities making him the only viable candidate to make the trip.
Once there he must convince past-Xavier to team up with past-Magneto to stop past-Mystique.
The movie is combined effort to sort-of clean-up the muddy continuity of all of the X-Men movies to date by introducing time-travel to ret-con or de-con certain events and hopefully get things a bit more organized for the continuing franchise... Which is "sort of" pulls of, but still leaves questions open but when you introduce time-travel into an already muddy comic-book universe you pretty much give yourself infinite carte-blanches.
We get a nice role reversal between older-Wolverine and young Xavier, who is taking heroin, er, medication that allows him to walk but at the cost of his mutant ability of telepathy and mind control. In the past Wolverine has to be the solid man of reason and Xavier is the unstable man prone to let his emotions and rage get the better of him. The intervening years between "First Class" and "DoFP" have been a rough-ride.
The movie brings great entertainment value and action scenes, and a great display of the powers of "Quicksliver" who can move fast enough that inside of a second he runs around a room making changes to people's positions and objects in the room to effect an escape for him, Magneto, Xavier and Wolverine.
Then he kinda goes away. Seems to me he could have continued to be useful, but whatever. It's a scene that Avengers: Age of Ultron is going to have to work hard to really top because that was just a great, fantastic scene.
The movie is good, and really shows that Singer shouldn't have left the franchise in favor of Superman back in 2005. But this movie is good, a lot of fun, and I'm sure X-Men fans will get some enjoyment out of it as well as it undoes a lot of the pains of X-Men: Last Stand.
But, at the same time, it kind-of undoes pretty much the entire franchise save First Class.
Fun movie, good time. Stick around through the credits as there is a tag scene but unless you really know your X-Men comics/characters you're not likely to get it.
Good point, if he was "drafted" into Stryker's team in say, 1970/71, then left the team in '71 or '72...it's all fine.
Edit. Or not...because Logan hasn't met Stryker yet in the DoFP version of '73. Damn!
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Yeah, the tag scene in "The Wolverine" feels like an inconsistency. I thought that scene was setting up them sending him back into the past, but that happens decades in the future not in the present. Was it merely supposed to be showing how Wolverine rejoined the X-Men? But why would Present Day Magneto and Xavier agree to work together before any of the horrible things happened?
As for this movie's tag scene. I agree that it would be confusing to non-comics fans. What they should have done is have the same scene only with chanting subtitled as "Apocalypse! Apocalypse!" and then end with a title card saying X-MEN APOCALYPSE COMING IN 2016.
Also, where the &*$& were the blue lips and the blue lines running from his mouth to his ears dammit?????
As for this movie's tag scene. I agree that it would be confusing to non-comics fans. What they should have done is have the same scene only with chanting subtitled as "Apocalypse! Apocalypse!" and then end with a title card saying X-MEN APOCALYPSE COMING IN 2016.
Also, where the &*$& were the blue lips and the blue lines running from his mouth to his ears dammit?????
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http://www.25moments.com/#!/moments/1962
As for En Saba Nur; I suppose they are going for an androgynous look. Male actor with female features for cross beauty appeal.As for this movie's tag scene. I agree that it would be confusing to non-comics fans. What they should have done is have the same scene only with chanting subtitled as "Apocalypse! Apocalypse!" and then end with a title card saying X-MEN APOCALYPSE COMING IN 2016.
Also, where the &*$& were the blue lips and the blue lines running from his mouth to his ears dammit?????
I haven't seen it brought up in this thread, but can someone explain the end credits tag?
^ Apocalypse? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_(comics)
Set in ancient Egypt, in the scene we see throngs of Egyptians worshipping a young man and chanting his name-- En Saba Nur, known to comics fans as the immortal (and possibly the first) mutant who will come to be known as Apocalypse. We see the future Apocalypse building the great pyramids using only the power of his mind. In the very last shot, we see four figures on horses in the distance-- his Horsemen.
To be continued in 2016...
So it was a preview for the next movie. Ok. I don't read the comics so I was confused.
I don't read the comics either. 
I like Psylocke, Jubilee & Rogue(These movies haven't done her justice) though.
I like Psylocke, Jubilee & Rogue(These movies haven't done her justice) though.
Maybe you should just concede? The universe wants you to read comics and you are fighting the universe. Only certain sorts of people think that they can fight the entire universe and win.
My ears were playing tricks on me in the theatre, I knew they had to be saying En Sabah Nur but all I swore I could hear that filthy throng screaming was Ras'Al Gul... Is it possible that my theatre was accidentally shipped a gag real?
The real reason I entered this thread... Did Kennedy's Mutant powers have everything to do with him claiming the presidency or nothing to with him claiming the presidency?
I'm told that the point of no return where his victory was certaintalized was the Television debate where he looked like a movie star and Nixon looked like a sweating hog.
Is it possible he had heat based powers and JFK made Nixon look like a wet guilty liar by increasing the air temperature around his plump jowly face by 12 degrees?
My ears were playing tricks on me in the theatre, I knew they had to be saying En Sabah Nur but all I swore I could hear that filthy throng screaming was Ras'Al Gul... Is it possible that my theatre was accidentally shipped a gag real?
The real reason I entered this thread... Did Kennedy's Mutant powers have everything to do with him claiming the presidency or nothing to with him claiming the presidency?
I'm told that the point of no return where his victory was certaintalized was the Television debate where he looked like a movie star and Nixon looked like a sweating hog.
Is it possible he had heat based powers and JFK made Nixon look like a wet guilty liar by increasing the air temperature around his plump jowly face by 12 degrees?
It's unlikely the next movie will be exactly like the comic book crossovers, X-Caliber, Generation Next, etc. The current roster of movie mutants is limited. Though I imagine Wolverine, Storm, Magneto, et al will take center stage as usual.
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