The Walking Dead Season 4

[bbjeg]

Maybe nobody dies but Rick looses a hand or something.

 

[wissaboo]

They may meet more people there if it goes on a while.

 

[Admiral2]

As I did back in the Carol justified/unjustified debate, I predict Carol comes back (again) and saves everybody's behinds.

 

[kitik]

Maybe nobody dies but Rick looses a hand or something.

Frankly, that just seems like they'd be making thier own job that much more difficult for however many more seasons TWD remains on the air.

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe nobody dies but Rick looses a hand or something.

Frankly, that just seems like they'd be making thier own job that much more difficult for however many more seasons TWD remains on the air.

Agreed. I know Rick loses his hand in the comics during his encounters with The Governor but I don't see them doing that to him in the series. It'd be just that much more they'd have to mess with or write around for the rest of the series.

 

[sojourner]

Was anyone else disappointed that Rick's "let's check this place out first" consisted of them walking around in the woods for about 5 minutes? Hell, I would have done a complete circuit of the place and used binoculars while studying their comings and goings for at least a day.

 

[Trekker4747]

Was anyone else disappointed that Rick's "let's check this place out first" consisted of them walking around in the woods for about 5 minutes? Hell, I would have done a complete circuit of the place and used binoculars while studying their comings and goings for at least a day.

We don't know that their checking of the place out didn't consist of at least walking around the place and taking a closer look over the course of an hour or so. Just that that doesn't make for very compelling television so they glossed over it.

As for watching over them for a full day, I don't know how practical that would have been given the situation they were in. IIRC they were burning daylight as it was, they didn't know the kind of patrols the place would have, nor is camping out entirely safe to do with walkers about. Coming in the back door, ahem, though was a pretty good idea.

 

[sojourner]

nor is camping out entirely safe to do with walkers about.

Not that that has stopped anyone on the show before.

 

[propita]

Aren't there, like, tons of feral pigs roaming around the south? And, without humans hunting them, shouldn't there be more wildlife? Life After People stuff?

 

[sojourner]

It's not like you see them on every street corner down here. And only 2 years "after people" there wouldn't be that big a population explosion of pigs yet.

 

[Sindatur]

It's not like you see them on every street corner down here. And only 2 years "after people" there wouldn't be that big a population explosion of pigs yet.

We've seen the Walkers eating a Cow and a horse, so, odds are, the wild Pigs would also have to watch out for Walkers.

Oh, and also, wasn't Rick tossing infected Pigs out to feed The Walkers to herd them?

 

[Mojochi]

Was anyone else disappointed that Rick's "let's check this place out first" consisted of them walking around in the woods for about 5 minutes? Hell, I would have done a complete circuit of the place and used binoculars while studying their comings and goings for at least a day.

We don't know that their checking of the place out didn't consist of at least walking around the place and taking a closer look over the course of an hour or so. Just that that doesn't make for very compelling television so they glossed over it.

As for watching over them for a full day, I don't know how practical that would have been given the situation they were in. IIRC they were burning daylight as it was, they didn't know the kind of patrols the place would have, nor is camping out entirely safe to do with walkers about. Coming in the back door, ahem, though was a pretty good idea.

Here's a thought. If your son's safety was important to you, you might value placing him in at least as safe a location as you did your stash of guns

Why not have Michonne & Carl stay hidden & have Rick & Daryl go in on their own? Then if all is safe, head out & retrieve them, and maybe have a deadline like sundown, where if contact hasn't been reestablished, they'll know something went wrong. The same holds true for the folks in Glenn's group, who had twice as many people & a military guy who I'd hope is familiar with the notion of recon

 

[Trekker4747]

Was anyone else disappointed that Rick's "let's check this place out first" consisted of them walking around in the woods for about 5 minutes? Hell, I would have done a complete circuit of the place and used binoculars while studying their comings and goings for at least a day.

We don't know that their checking of the place out didn't consist of at least walking around the place and taking a closer look over the course of an hour or so. Just that that doesn't make for very compelling television so they glossed over it.

As for watching over them for a full day, I don't know how practical that would have been given the situation they were in. IIRC they were burning daylight as it was, they didn't know the kind of patrols the place would have, nor is camping out entirely safe to do with walkers about. Coming in the back door, ahem, though was a pretty good idea.

Here's a thought. If your son's safety was important to you, you might value placing him in at least as safe a location as you did your stash of guns

Why not have Michonne & Carl stay hidden & have Rick & Daryl go in on their own? Then if all is safe, head out & retrieve them, and maybe have a deadline like sundown, where if contact hasn't been reestablished, they'll know something went wrong. The same holds true for the folks in Glenn's group, which had twice as many people & a military guy who I'd hope is familiar with the notion of recon

Oh, and next you'll be saying they should have had a group-wide agreed upon meet-up place should anything happen to the prison! Pfft, planning and strategy in the Zombie Apocalypse. Ha!

 

[Saul]

We don't know that their checking of the place out didn't consist of at least walking around the place and taking a closer look over the course of an hour or so. Just that that doesn't make for very compelling television so they glossed over it.

As for watching over them for a full day, I don't know how practical that would have been given the situation they were in. IIRC they were burning daylight as it was, they didn't know the kind of patrols the place would have, nor is camping out entirely safe to do with walkers about. Coming in the back door, ahem, though was a pretty good idea.

Here's a thought. If your son's safety was important to you, you might value placing him in at least as safe a location as you did your stash of guns

Why not have Michonne & Carl stay hidden & have Rick & Daryl go in on their own? Then if all is safe, head out & retrieve them, and maybe have a deadline like sundown, where if contact hasn't been reestablished, they'll know something went wrong. The same holds true for the folks in Glenn's group, which had twice as many people & a military guy who I'd hope is familiar with the notion of recon

Oh, and next you'll be saying they should have had a group-wide agreed upon meet-up place should anything happen to the prison! Pfft, planning and strategy in the Zombie Apocalypse. Ha!

Didn't they do that after the farm burnt down?

 

[Trekker4747]

Didn't they do that after the farm burnt down?

"Sorta" it seemed like they all just met-up back on the highway where they left the stuff for Sophia. It didn't seem like a plan so much as it just worked out that way. (Andrea, for example, didn't have Michonne take her there.)

But they obviously didn't have any plan laid out in a situation where the prison needed to be evacuated.

 

[Mojochi]

Oh, and next you'll be saying they should have had a group-wide agreed upon meet-up place should anything happen to the prison! Pfft, planning and strategy in the Zombie Apocalypse. Ha!

Actually, that still would've made for a cool final scene. Daryl & Rick get chased into the train car where they find Glenn, Maggie & maybe Sasha. Then, when Carl & Michonne realize they got trapped, & maybe hear the gun fire, they prepare to go in to rescue them

That's when Bob & Abe come out & stop them, cue music, as 6 or 7 characters look down at the building where the rest are captured. Cut to black

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

But they obviously didn't have any plan laid out in a situation where the prison needed to be evacuated.

Would that make sense? With Michonne still searching for the Governor at the start of the season, one could assume she (in the interests of the prison group) was not just looking to "finish the job," but to prevent the threat of a round 2 (or 3). Rick & the rest were aware of this, so why not have a couple of contingency plans--other than get on the bus and go?

 

[sojourner]

Yeah, some of the lack of planning by characters on the show reaches the stretching point. These are supposed to be the survivors of the ZA. You don't survive something like this without learning to make basic contingency plans.

 

[Ryan8bit]

The sad truth of it is that the Walking Dead is always going to operate this way. I love the show, but the characters can be so obtuse at times, and it's all to drive the plot. This whole season seemed to really exemplify that.

 

[DarthTom]

This is kind of cool. They created the best - and worst - places to survive a ZA

1. Texas with a survivability score of 67
With a low population density and more federally licensed firearms dealers, hospitals and Walmarts than any other state, Texas is an easy choice for best place to survive the zombie apocalypse. It also has more military bases than all but a handful of states, which will come in handy to protect your desert camp from zombie invasion, or, in the event that Fort Hood is lost, as a place to salvage supplies. If you're really worried about the ZA, a scouting trip to Texas could be a good idea.
2. Georgia with a survivability score of 65.25
Looks like The Walking Dead gang are lucky to be in Georgia, as the state's low population density, large number of Walmarts, military bases and hospitals, and high rate of gun ownership make it a great place to ward off impending doom. Of course, crazed groups of survivors trying to take your prison won't make matters any easier. Why the gang hasn't given any of the islands in coastal Georgia a chance yet, we do not know.
3. California with a survivability score of 65
California has a lot of things working against it: super high population density and a ton of large cities. But apparently the good outweighs the bad, and its mountainous terrain and impressive number of gun stores, Walmarts, hospitals and military bases tip the scales in its favor. One thing's for sure, the Sierra Nevada area and not Los Angeles is where you'll want to be.
4. North Carolina with a survivability score of 62
Guns, military bases, hospitals and Walmarts -- North Carolina has 'em in spades. It also has several urban centers and a high population density, but, again, GUNS. Perhaps the best place to hole up during the apocalypse is Asheville, NC, which has the highest concentration of breweries in America.
5. Virginia with a survivability score of 61
Virginia is pretty middle of the road in most categories, but its large number of hospitals, Walmarts and military bases make it a great spot to seek shelter from the zombies. And it's pretty close to Washington D.C., which, you know, would totally be protected to the last man standing. Also, if the ZA goes down like in World War Z, then Naval Station Norfolk will certainly come in handy.
The five worst states to survive the zombie apocalypse are:
46. Hawaii with a survivability score of 30
At first glance Hawaii would seem like a great place to survive the zombie apocalypse: it's cut off from the rest of the United States, the weather is nice and there are volcanoes in which to dispose of rotting zombie corpses. But what if the zombie virus does spread to infect entire islands? Well, then you're trapped on a small island with millions of zombies and basically no guns. Doesn't sound so paradisiacal now, does it?
47. Nebraska with a survivability score of 28
Nebraska does not score well on any category, except population density. It's flat, which means the zombies can move faster (and you won't see them because of the corn stalks!), it's only got a few gun stores and there are just a couple of military bases to protect survivors.
48. New Jersey with a survivability score of 27.5
New Jersey is the most densely populated state, and coupled with its lack of guns and mountains, means it's one of the most difficult places to survive the societal breakdown. And that's not even taking into account the millions of zombie New Yorkers who are sure to come flowing across the bridges and through the tunnels in search of their next meal.
49. Delaware with a survivability score of 16.75
Small states with no guns, no mountains and lots of people don't fare well in the zombie apocalypse. That we know. And Delaware is no exception.
50. Rhode Island with a survivability score of 14.75
And here it is; Rhode Island is hands down the worst place to survive the zombie apocalypse. Its population density is high, there are no mountains or guns, and, really, not much of anything else that would be useful either. So here's some advice to Rhode Islanders, when the mysterious bitings/illnesses start, head south.
See the full list of all 50 states and their survivability scores!
http://www.hopperblog.com/the-best-and-worst-places-to-survive-the-zombie-apocalypse/2/