Now McCoy, he's got that short-sleeved tunic, so he could roll up one of his sleeves and tuck his pack under there....
Cigarette smoking and TOS
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Was anybody smoking in the bar that nuKirk was fighting in for the 2009 movie or near Scotty in Darkness or is Abrams continuing the tobacco free tradition?
I'm pretty sure that'd be voluntary but smoking is not very en vogue these days. Where I live you can't smoke in any public establishment and a lot of people who do smoke will even go outside to smoke at home. So I think TV might just be reflecting its diminishing role in society.
In "Journey to Babel," I always thought the smoke during Sarek's surgery was a portray of damaged electronics in the surgical frame, due to the battle rocking the ship.
And didn't Spock refer to it as a "serogenic open-heart procedure"? Serogenic would be a sci-fi term for something that stimulates the making of blood serum. I think transcripts that say cryogenic are wrong, unless Nimoy mispronounced cryogenic and accidentally hit upon a good sci-fi word that fit the story perfectly. That seems unlikely; he was meticulous with his words.
In the introduction Gene Roddenberry recorded for 'The Cage', he specifically pointed out that he wouldn't allow anyone to smoke on the Enterprise, and there's a sign from the transporter room where the first rule is "No Smoking."
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=112&page=3
So, yeah, smokin' in the franchise is pretty rare because of that rule.
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=112&page=3
So, yeah, smokin' in the franchise is pretty rare because of that rule.
Probably a Nick Meyer thing, as that director's love for cigars has been well documented.
Bob
I'm just using thread as an excuse to post this:
Does anyone know if it is against the rules to show someone smoking on TV in the US? On occasion I have seen it so I don't think its totally banned. Or is it some sort of voluntary thing?
Why are Uhura and Chapel making out?
I'm just using thread as an excuse to post this:
Does anyone know if it is against the rules to show someone smoking on TV in the US? On occasion I have seen it so I don't think its totally banned. Or is it some sort of voluntary thing?
Perhaps Roddenberry wrote it into the script. Maybe a case of art imitating life, or vice versa.
I'm just using thread as an excuse to post this:
Does anyone know if it is against the rules to show someone smoking on TV in the US? On occasion I have seen it so I don't think its totally banned. Or is it some sort of voluntary thing?
Uhura is giving Christine Chapel a congratulatory hug and kiss at the news that Chapel's long-lost fiancé Dr. Roger Korby was discovered to be alive!
On Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, the smoking was rampant in the first season. However, as the series hit color, there were only a few instances of it on screen, but Richard Basehart almost always had a pack in his shirt pocket.
Or maybe it was a flask...
The Time Tunnel had a cigarette or two in view, as I recall. Not Lost in Space, as I recall.
Or maybe it was a flask...
The Time Tunnel had a cigarette or two in view, as I recall. Not Lost in Space, as I recall.
Actually the script does say "cryogenic": http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/journey_to_babel.htm
Besides, the correct medical term for blood production is hematopoiesis, not serogenesis. As far as I can tell, "serogenic" is an uncommon term that's used either to refer to diseases caused by something in the blood or to the process of blood typing (from -gen as in type, like genus or genre).
The story is that it was there in "The Cage" but never again until TWOK.
I don't know if there was, but that's the claim I've heard -- that it was somewhere in the transporter room.
Harvey:
You can rest comfortably knowing that you haven't missed the sign after all these years. It's not there.
The confusion is that when "The Cage" was finally released on VHS in 1986, for Trek's 20th anniversary (and aired in selected markets in the country), it had introductory comments by Gene Roddenberry--providing some background of the history of the show. One of these commentary shots was filmed in the Transporter Room of the Enterprise as seen in the recently-filmed Star Trek IV. Because the Star Trek IV Transporter Room contained the "No Smoking" sign, and because it appears in the context of Roddenberry talking about "The Cage," people conflate the two.
Switching the y and the r, for whatever reason (a moment of dyslexia or dyslexic reading, a typo, whatever) would produce cyrogenic.
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