Troughton was a bit mental. Arguably, he doesn't settle down until "The Underwater Menace" or "The Moonbase." In his first two stories, he's all over the map.
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Troughton was a bit mental. Arguably, he doesn't settle down until "The Underwater Menace" or "The Moonbase." In his first two stories, he's all over the map.
Didn't I cover this already? All of the Doctors who had trouble after regenerating were stabilized within a few hours, a day or two at most. Nobody's saying that "Rose" was that soon after his regeneration.
He looked at the mirror and said: "Could have been worse. Look at my ears!", which leads some people to think that he's seeing all that for the first time, and indeed I'd say that it's the intention of the scene, a nod for those in the audience who know that the Doctor regenerates.
Lol, I can totally see that.
Doctor regenerates. Looks into mirror...
"Oh, HELL NO!"
Goes to find a barber.
Maybe when he first regenerated he still had Hurt's beard and longer hair (along with old outfit) and decided to shave and have a haircut and choose a more basic outfit, and in Roses flat could be when he first has time to properly study himself, and he talks about the ears as the shorter hair makes them stick out more.
^ Maybe, but I think it's quite obvious that it wasn't RTD's intention when he wrote the line.
Yeah, I think RTD at the time intended for the doctor to have just regenerated, but after seeing Night of the Doctor and Day of the Doctor, we have to assume differently.
I don't see why.
Why is this assumed? I think its not so certain that that line meant he had just regenerated, but more making a passing comment on his recently regenerated self - which isn't the same thing. Also, if the Doctor had been an incarnation that he was ashamed of, at least originally, wouldn't it actually take him awhile before he decided that "you know, its alright to be a Doctor again, after all this time, and all this war."
Exactly. Recently regenerated. I don't think anyone is claiming that he'd just regenerated two hours earlier or something; the assertion is simply that his regeneration was comparatively recent, that he was in the "early first season" of his life rather than having looked like Eccleston for a decade or five already. And that's not just based on the mirror thing, it's based on how raw the wounds still were for him.
Fair enough. However, taking The Day of the Doctor into consideration, how and why would the Doctor decide that quickly that he was The Doctor again?
And personally, I didn't think he had just regenerated, which is something that has been said around here. And I'm not exactly against the idea that he had been around for a while, which clive's website supports - including instances of meeting with the Seventh Doctor in a university and whatnot.
On a side note, if we take age considerations, Nine had to have lived between Rose and Parting of the Ways at least a hundred years, since the Eleventh was 1200 years old by The Day of the Doctor.
That is, if we take the Doctor for his word. The Seventh said he 958, after all, in his debut story.
And personally, I didn't think he had just regenerated, which is something that has been said around here. And I'm not exactly against the idea that he had been around for a while, which clive's website supports - including instances of meeting with the Seventh Doctor in a university and whatnot.
On a side note, if we take age considerations, Nine had to have lived between Rose and Parting of the Ways at least a hundred years, since the Eleventh was 1200 years old by The Day of the Doctor.
That is, if we take the Doctor for his word. The Seventh said he 958, after all, in his debut story.
IN that exact same scene, the Eleventh Doctor also says he's not sure how old he is, or he's lying about how old he is. He's so old that he doesn't even know the difference anymore.
Don't foget Roses' mad google skills that proved that Nine was on the Titanic.
A few hours in the drink, and he would want to get rid of all that excess hair.
Of course the line about the Doctor not knowing how old he is, perhaps was away of acknowledging to the disparity between the orignal era and the current era as he was stated to over 900 in the original era.
Or it might be a case he is over 1200 Gallifrey years, but over 1500 Human years.
Or it might be a case he is over 1200 Gallifrey years, but over 1500 Human years.
I see it more as a choice. As he said, taking the title "The Doctor" was a promise. With the war over, with the guilt fresh in his mind, he chose to reassert that promise and try to be worthy of it again, as a way of atoning. Just as the War Doctor's first words were "Doctor no more," I suppose the postwar/"Ninth" Doctor's decision at the beginning of his new life would have been "Warrior no more."
I've seen posts questioning the idea that he'd only immediately regenerated, i.e. hours previously rather than weeks, but I don't recall seeing anyone actually endorsing that view.
Although there's no way of knowing whether those adventures happened before or after "Rose" from the Doctor's POV. The way the season was structured leaves room for a fair number of unseen adventures between episodes, and the tie-in novels and comics reinforce this notion.
And the Third Doctor implied once or twice that he was thousands of years old. The Doctor's asserted age has never been consistent or reliable.
In the time war, it's possible that some horrific weapon made him younger.
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