The Night Of The Doctor

[Sindatur]

If it had been a long time since he regenerated, and hadn't looked in the mirror yet, I don't know that it necessarily had to be a conscious decision, it could simply be that he got busy and forgot to bother (Although, it probably did start out as shame). The way The Doctor flits about from one adventure to the next, he pretty much allows himself to be carried along from one adventure to the next. Although he claims to keep track of his age (And therefore the passage of time), I don't think he really does notice the passage of time. If he was traveling alone, I could easily see how he wouldn't know the difference between 2 years or 100 years passing by since Regeneration before meeting Rose

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

What do you mean after his adventure on the Titanic? Nine WAS on the Titanic, yes, but it could have been any time after "Rose".

 

[diankra]

He;s been around long enough to arrive on Earth (probably) and find out the Nestenes are up to something, and build himself a bomb to plant in a department store. If he's managed to do all that without passing any reflective surfaces he could have missed out on one during the Titanic business as well (though personally, I just go for the simple solution: Rose is there, but she's taking the photo. Possibly because she remembers that she's not in it, so she makes sure she isn't).

 

[Pavonis]

The Titanic photo is the only one where Nine is not wearing his trademark leather jacket, v-neck sweater, and black pants. Odd. He never changed for any other era, yet there he was wearing a radically different outfit, much closer to the Eighth Doctor's style. I wonder if, at the time of production, it was meant as a hint as to the time and place of Eight's regeneration into Nine....

Anyway, upon spying his own reflection, he doesn't seem too upset about it, just commenting on his looks, much as anyone might. And he seems relatively calm if it's very soon after a regeneration. He usually experiences some post-regeneration mania, but Nine in "Rose" seems long past any mania.

 

[Sindatur]

The Titanic photo is the only one where Nine is not wearing his trademark leather jacket, v-neck sweater, and black pants. Odd. He never changed for any other era, yet there he was wearing a radically different outfit, much closer to the Eighth Doctor's style. I wonder if, at the time of production, it was meant as a hint as to the time and place of Eight's regeneration into Nine....

Anyway, upon spying his own reflection, he doesn't seem too upset about it, just commenting on his looks, much as anyone might. And he seems relatively calm if it's very soon after a regeneration. He usually experiences some post-regeneration mania, but Nine in "Rose" seems long past any mania.

Yea, putting 2 and 2 together, along with "born in Fire", odds are, IMHO, HurtDoctor killed his incarnation using "The Moment" and putting an end to The Time War. Considering the trauma of his other Regenerations and the fact it took an entire Serial/Episode for him to heal from his Regeneration, I think it's a very good bet, his Regeneration into Nine is no less than a week before meeting Rose, and considering what you point out about being aware of The Nestene and creating the bomb, it's likely quite a bit more than only a week

 

[The Lensman]

That's been some folks interpretation of the mirror scene, but it's also possible that after the events of the Time War, and his actions as Hurt, that he couldn't bear to look at himself for a long while, maybe fearing that he'd see some trace of Hurt's Doctor sill there.

Then why was he so casual about it when he looked in the mirror in Rose's place?

Because the feeling had been diminishing over time and he was in an environment where he felt a bit lighthearted?

 

[Christopher]

And he seems relatively calm if it's very soon after a regeneration. He usually experiences some post-regeneration mania, but Nine in "Rose" seems long past any mania.

I think that's overstating it. In "The Power of the Daleks," the Doctor was confused for the first couple of minutes, but fine after that. In "Spearhead from Space," he was unconscious and confused for a few hours post-regeneration, and in "Robot" he was much the same, but in both cases it was resolved in less than a day. In "Castrovalva" he suffered a crisis because the regeneration hadn't quite settled in, but he showed no symptoms of "mania." There was a momentary mania in "The Twin Dilemma," but again, he'd stabilized -- as much as he was going to -- within hours. In "Time and the Rani," he was over his initial confusion within a minute after regaining consciousness. In the '96 movie, he was amnesiac and understandably confused, but hardly manic. In "The Christmas Invasion," he was fine at first -- a bit babbly, but that was normal for that incarnation -- and then spent a fair amount of time sleeping it off, which is about as far from mania as you can get. And he seemed to bounce back readily from regeneration in "The Eleventh Hour," aside from getting obsessed with finding a new favorite food.

So while the Doctor's normal state of being could be described as hypomania (persistent elevated or euphoric mood) in the majority of his incarnations, I can only think of one instance, "The Twin Dilemma," where he experienced full-blown mania (or perhaps bipolar disorder) in the wake of his regeneration. And he always seems to have settled down within minutes, hours, or at most a day or two after regenerating. Nobody's suggesting that the Doctor went directly from destroying Gallifrey to helping Rose run from the Autons. It seems likely he'd been in that incarnation for at least a few days or weeks. But it doesn't seem to have been much longer than that.

 

[DWF]

There's no way of knowing from Rose when the Doctor had regenerated, he had to be around for a while to know about the Nestines as it's been stated not to mention all the pictures taken of him thougout time. And I'd hardly call a post regeneration crisis a mania, the sitch Doctor's crisis came after a near death regeneration and like Davison IMO he wasn't totally there as teh new Doctor til the end of the story.

 

[Pavonis]

... not to mention all the pictures taken of him throughout time...

Couldn't those have been taken when he (to Rose and Mickey's perception) briefly disappeared at the end of "Rose", then said "Did I mention that it travels in time?" or some line to that effect?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

... not to mention all the pictures taken of him throughout time...

Couldn't those have been taken when he (to Rose and Mickey's perception) briefly disappeared at the end of "Rose", then said "Did I mention that it travels in time?" or some line to that effect?

Yes, it's possible. But I don't think that was RTD's intent at the time given that DWM's "The Flood" with its original ending would not, by any stretch of the imagination, lead into "Rose." Plus, to have the photographs in the past come from the Doctor's personal future is a timey-wimeyness that RTD's writing never embraced. That would be a Moffat trick any day of the week; RTD didn't do things like that.

 

[FreddyE]

He was so eager to have Rose on board, I don´t see him leaving, having some adventures alone and then returning to mere seconds after he left and saying "Did I mention that it travels in time?".

He probably left and while the Tardis was in the vortex remembered "Should have mentioned that!" and promtly returned.

 

[MacLeod]

... not to mention all the pictures taken of him throughout time...

Couldn't those have been taken when he (to Rose and Mickey's perception) briefly disappeared at the end of "Rose", then said "Did I mention that it travels in time?" or some line to that effect?

Yes, it's possible. But I don't think that was RTD's intent at the time given that DWM's "The Flood" with its original ending would not, by any stretch of the imagination, lead into "Rose." Plus, to have the photographs in the past come from the Doctor's personal future is a timey-wimeyness that RTD's writing never embraced. That would be a Moffat trick any day of the week; RTD didn't do things like that.

Well there is the scene in "Rose" where the Doctor looks in a mirror and comments on his apperance almost as if it's the first time he has sceen it. Which could lend some support that this adventure takes place shortly after a regeneration. Of course it is possible that this is the first chance he has had to have a look at it being otherwise engaged.

 

[Pindar]

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[Captaindemotion]

^Spammer.

 

[Venardhi]

You don't say.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Well there is the scene in "Rose" where the Doctor looks in a mirror and comments on his apperance almost as if it's the first time he has sceen it.

Or he's in the apartment of a woman and he's checking himself out to make sure he looks okay.

The thing with the cards is a little harder to explain, unless the ninth Doctor is a spastic idiot.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Well there is the scene in "Rose" where the Doctor looks in a mirror and comments on his apperance almost as if it's the first time he has sceen it.

Or he's in the apartment of a woman and he's checking himself out to make sure he looks okay.

The thing with the cards is a little harder to explain, unless the ninth Doctor is a spastic idiot.

Given 10's behavior, it might have been foreshadowing.

 

[Pauln6]

Just got round to watching this. Awesome. McGann is a good actor. I really, really hope this means they do more with McGann in future. A few TV movies would be a treat and maybe a proper cross-over episode featuring companions that have appeared in the audio stories.

 

[ROBE]

I never understand why people think Nine had just regenerated, just because he looks in a mirror and makes a comment about his appearance? I do that nearly everyday and I have had the same body for 43 years. If he had just regenerated I would have thought he would be suffering from post regeneration sickness, yet Nine has no such illness.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Did Patrick Troughton seem to suffer due to his regeneration? What about Romana?

In other words, is there a difference whether the regeneration was traumatic or not?