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How did Wood argue that McGann didn't count?
How did Wood argue that McGann didn't count?
The Night Of The Doctor
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I'm going to have to reread the essay when I get home before I can answer that fully. I remember that he concedes that the merchandising of McGann's Doctor means that the BBC was invested in McGann as a real Doctor which functionally means that he does.
You'd think it would be a no-brainer. The short proves pretty clearly that fans are more than willing to watch other Doctors besides just the current ones, as long as the writing and production values are at the same level.
In any case, it's pretty damn cool to see McGann's Doctor being celebrated and embraced in such a huge way like this. Especially so many years after his last appearance.
It just shows that people are gasping for more of McGann. And if you ask me, the production and writing of Night of the Doctor was much better than a lot of Smith episodes.
But yeah, here's hoping for another short at least. It would be nice to see him facing off against the Daleks at least, as he's the only doctor not to have faced off against them.
Oh yeah, and I know I'm beginning to stray off topic, but I made a new McGann microhero.........yay!
But yeah, here's hoping for another short at least. It would be nice to see him facing off against the Daleks at least, as he's the only doctor not to have faced off against them.
Oh yeah, and I know I'm beginning to stray off topic, but I made a new McGann microhero.........yay!
Pretty sure he did face them. In fact, I'd be willing to bet he faced them more than any other Doctor.It just shows that people are gasping for more of McGann. And if you ask me, the production and writing of Night of the Doctor was much better than a lot of Smith episodes.
But yeah, here's hoping for another short at least. It would be nice to see him facing off against the Daleks at least, as he's the only doctor not to have faced off against them.
Oh yeah, and I know I'm beginning to stray off topic, but I made a new McGann microhero.........yay!
Just ask Lucie.
PS: Really cool pic up there.
Now that I've reread the essay...
Wood's argument is that the BBC Wales series insufficiently embraced the television movie (specifically, the half-human bit), that Death Comes to Time (a pure BBC production rather than the hydra-headed production that was the television movie) ignored it when it killed the seventh Doctor, and that RTD said so in Queer As Folk. No, really, that's Wood's argument. It's an "old man argues with cloud" sort of argument, with Wood as the old man.
Whilst I agree it would be nice to see more of the eighth Doctor, I doubt we will.
Part of the reason for the reaction was simply it was the eighth Docotr on screen again, for only the second time in a story. As such it has a certain novelty factor which no doubt helped.
So what if anything do they do?
More webisodes?
If it wasn't the 50th Annivesary they would never have spend the money on it. As for the other shorts many of them are no doubt done for minimal extra cost as you just shoot them at the same time as the episode.
Also how does a webisode or web-series help the BBC in the ratings battle?
I suppose they could go down the direct to DVD route, but I suspect that would have to come from BBC worldwide rather than the BBC. After all it would be hard to justify it to license fee payers that we are spening your money on a direct to DVD movie and won't be airing it on BBC.
Option 3 is a TV Movie but wouldn't that detract from the series? Of course it could be framed by a narration from the current Doctor.
Part of the reason for the reaction was simply it was the eighth Docotr on screen again, for only the second time in a story. As such it has a certain novelty factor which no doubt helped.
So what if anything do they do?
More webisodes?
If it wasn't the 50th Annivesary they would never have spend the money on it. As for the other shorts many of them are no doubt done for minimal extra cost as you just shoot them at the same time as the episode.
Also how does a webisode or web-series help the BBC in the ratings battle?
I suppose they could go down the direct to DVD route, but I suspect that would have to come from BBC worldwide rather than the BBC. After all it would be hard to justify it to license fee payers that we are spening your money on a direct to DVD movie and won't be airing it on BBC.
Option 3 is a TV Movie but wouldn't that detract from the series? Of course it could be framed by a narration from the current Doctor.
I really do hope for a Eight-Twelve Doctor multi-Doctor story for next Christmas. It could happen, and it'd evoke The Two Doctors - and in a good way, I hope. 
Snipping the rest.
I agree with all of your reasoning on the possible scenarios.
Webisodes would have a budget problem, as the BBC wouldn't see a big return on investment from them. The revenue streams would be limited; Worldwide could sell DVDs, but they're not going to get overseas broadcast sales.
Direct-to-DVD? Possibly, but as you say, that would be a purely Worldwide affair.
An occasional special? Worldwide might be interested in this. BBC America might be, too.
The only other option I see is a BBC 4 radio series, not unlike the first eighth Doctor/Lucie season. But I doubt that's what the BBC would have in mind.
I've sometimes thought that the BBC should partner with a US network for an American-targeted spin-off. Not like Miracle Day. Forget that ever happened. No, an Abslom Daak, Dalek Killer series. That might work very well as a lead-in to "The Night of the Doctor" (to flesh out the backstory) and there could be occasional guest appearances by the eighth Doctor. I'd watch that.
I just finished watching the night of the doctor and wow, it bloody good and it the first time mcgann played the doctor since the movie.
I think they could get around building a console room for him, too, if that required too much budget. Just shoot the TARDIS interiors in front of a blue screen or something.
Maybe that's why people watched, but that gave them an opportunity to see that McGann is really good as the Doctor. I mean, he was good in '96, but he had so much more presence and seasoning here. He deserves to do more.
Why would it detract any more than a spinoff like Torchwood or Sarah Jane? It broadens the franchise.
It would be a good way to fill in any future gaps in broadcast, especially if BBCA gets behind it so the BBC doesn't have to be the ones funding it and the two series aren't competing with each other.
My thought would be to have a series with the current Doc. (probably 12 if it is in the next few years) where 8 comes in for a key episode, they save the day but discover some even darker threat that requires 8 to accomplish something pre-Time War. He heads off, we get the series with him which is mostly (but not entirely) based around this task he must achieve, then end it on a cliffhanger and have him pop up again in the next series where the finale is a shared climax for both story threads. For the viewers who don't/can't watch the 8th Doctor series for whatever reason, all they need to know is he did/got the thing he needed to do/get and came back.
My thought would be to have a series with the current Doc. (probably 12 if it is in the next few years) where 8 comes in for a key episode, they save the day but discover some even darker threat that requires 8 to accomplish something pre-Time War. He heads off, we get the series with him which is mostly (but not entirely) based around this task he must achieve, then end it on a cliffhanger and have him pop up again in the next series where the finale is a shared climax for both story threads. For the viewers who don't/can't watch the 8th Doctor series for whatever reason, all they need to know is he did/got the thing he needed to do/get and came back.
The thing I see about having a series and it being a detraction from the regular series, just how much of Doctor Who has there been this year. You got the end of Season 7, and the special and christmas show. The year before that you had the beginning of Season 7 and the Christmas show. There hasn't been much Doctor Who at all lately, and it would be nice if after the Anniversary year we could have a little more of the show. Like other posters have said, it would be no different than running Torchwood or Sarah Jane Adventures concurrently with it.
The character has the same name, but I've always thought that they were different. Tennant's Doctor is nothing like Eccleston's Doctor, for example. If people are confused by the show that, as you say features the same (but different) characters in different eras of his life, than they don't know much Doctor Who.
Or just a TV movie. Something to put during the Summer months (May-August) during this long gap with no Doctor Who until next September.
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