The Night Of The Doctor

[Tom]

Well if there is such thing as a 'fan-gasm', i just had one this morning. I, like many of you, have been crying for them to bring back McGann for the 50th and I got my Christmas present early! McGann is now a total 'BBC produced' canon (although there was still flashbacks in TND and a couple other places, i know) LOL!

Guess now the big question is will they show Hurt regenerating to Ecc in the special? otherwise people will wonder if there is still even another unknown after Hurt since that loop is still open.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Does this mean BF can't give him any new companions now?

I thought the same thing but as Allyn says...

Yes, but no mention of Izzy. (RTD's favorite companion.) Or Fitz. (The Doctor's bestest friend.) Or Benny. (The eighth Doctor's OTP.)

True, I noticed that as well, although, at first, I thought I heard him say "Mary" but I had my volume down at work. I tend to think it's not an inclusive list. Erimem, Amy/Abby and Thomas aren't in The Caves of Androzani (for obvious reasons, of course) but they're certainly important people to The Fifth Doctor.

By the way, I love the War Doctor title, presumably a call back to the War Chief.

Oh, cool, I didn't even think of that. Nice call back, intentional or not. If it is, that's two Terrance Dicks scripts referred to in this minisode.

HOLY CRAP HOLY CRAP HOLY CRAP PAUL McGANN HOLY CRAP!

Paul McGann is, and always has been, my Doctor. I can't believe this! If you had told me this yesterday, I would have laughed at you.

I'm freaking out! HOLY CRAP

He even mentioned Charley!!!!

I knew you would be happy about this. More so than Green Lantern.

Speaking of the devil, he either hasn't seen the clip yet, or is still fan-gasm-ing.

Great clip though.

Spoiler: questions

Clearly a younger Hurt version then. So he's still "#8" due to the potion?

 

[Samurai8472]

Spoiler: questions

Clearly a younger Hurt version then. So he's still "#8" due to the potion?

Yes.

1 War Doctor

11 Doctors


Probably after the war the War doctor decided

"So much death. I believe a doctor is need"


Ecchelston arrives. This marks the return of "The Doctor"

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Well, there WAS a regeneration. So no, I'm thinking the War Doctor (heh, that's really catchy) is number nine. The Doctor has delayed his regeneration before / since, so this is just counting that.

Also, McGann regnerated a) outside his TARDIS, and b) not completely on his feet. Oh Moff, you CAN buck a trend!

Mark

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Spoiler: questions

Clearly a younger Hurt version then. So he's still "#8" due to the potion?

Yes.

1 War Doctor

11 Doctors


Probably after the war the War doctor decided

"So much death. I believe a doctor is need"


Eccelston arrives. This marks the return of "The Doctor"

And sometime in the future someone could play the Second War Doctor.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Also also - ooh! He's got the same sonic screwdriver he started with, or one close enough to it. CONTINUITY!

Mark

 

[diankra]

This is the only time I've seen McGann as The Doctor, and I have to say that in the 6 minutes of him, I'm pretty impressed. I need to find that movie somewhere.

Well, if you can't purchase it, or watch it on Netflix, here it is streaming on Dailymotion

Part 1

Part 2

EMH, 7 different incarnations? Eccelston, Tennant, Smith, Davison, McGann (And I suppose you are counting Capaldi also?), who's #7?

ETA: Oh, DUH, nevermind HurtDoctor

Eight, actually, counting the 7th Doctor's appearance in his Continuity Errors short story for one of the Decalogs.

 

[marillion]

ON EDIT.. I didn't reply fast enough, but this was directed at Samurai's comment...

^^ Is that the official explination, and I misunderstood what happened on screen or just supposition? I fear this will be a new "hot debate" topic around fandom... I read into this as he was dead.. The sisters brought him back just long enough to he could regenerate as he normally would... And then they juiced him up with some magic potion so that the regeneration could be controlled to give him the OOOMPH he needed to end the war..

Dammit, now I'm confused..

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Well if there is such thing as a 'fan-gasm', i just had one this morning. I, like many of you, have been crying for them to bring back McGann for the 50th and I got my Christmas present early! McGann is now a total 'BBC produced' canon (although there was still flashbacks in TND and a couple other places, i know) LOL!

Guess now the big question is will they show Hurt regenerating to Ecc in the special? otherwise people will wonder if there is still even another unknown after Hurt since that loop is still open.

As much as I would like to believe Moffat is pulling a fast one in us again with Eccleston, I highly doubt it simply because Eccleston said he's not in it. Unlike McGann, who went along with the game, Eccleston strikes me the type of person who wants to maintain integrity with his fans by not lying.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I do believe they will show the regeneration. If they went through the trouble of showing McGann turn into Hurt, I think its just as possible for the Hurt-Eccleston regeneration to occur.

Whether Eccleston himself would've been up for it or not, that... is another story. And based on what we've heard about him, highly doubtful.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Don't forget that, if the BF audios are being acknowledged, then that includes the Sisterhood's appearance in Sisters of the Flame/The Vengeance of Morbius, which is an Eighth Doctor two-part audio story featuring Lucie Miller (not to mention Alexander Siddig aka Julian Bashir).

Obviously the Doctor would remember the Sisters from when he was Four, but if they're including the audios, then he's also encountered them again a lot more recently than that.

I think the dialogue is vague enough so that it works two ways. For the fans who have no knowledge of the spin-off materials, it's a reference to "The Brain of Morbius" and for those who've heard his audio dramas, it's a reference to those two stories, I imagine that's how the line is meant to work.

 

[Samurai8472]

ON EDIT.. I didn't reply fast enough, but this was directed at Samurai's comment...

^^ Is that the official explination, and I misunderstood what happened on screen or just supposition? I fear this will be a new "hot debate" topic around fandom... I read into this as he was dead.. The sisters brought him back just long enough to he could regenerate as he normally would... And then they juiced him up with some magic potion so that the regeneration could be controlled to give him the OOOMPH he needed to end the war..

Dammit, now I'm confused..

That's what I want to believe happened. The 8th doctor said "No more Doctor. Time for a warrior"

So he takes on a different title for specific mission. To be the "War Doctor"

When the war's over he turned back into the Doctor


The war doctor is a detour/combo breaker before continuing to be the doctor.


Now I want to see Derek Jacobi and John Hurt fight!

 

[ParticleMan]

I wonder though...if 9-10-11 were actively not acknowledging the existence of the War Doctor, when 10 describes the atrocities of the Time War to the Master in End of Time, is he recalling the experiences of that incarnation or did he perhaps observe these things when he was still 8? Would the Doctor still refer to those memories even as he is trying to forget being that version of himself?

 

[Sindatur]

Now I want to see Derek Jacobi and John Hurt fight!

Heh, I think that much fangasm (After This McGann Minisode) all in one year would kill us all

 

[davejames]

That. Was. Freakin. Awesome.

As for regenerating into Nine, I think they could still easily do it without Eccleston, and simply CG his head from a prior episode onto someone else's body. It would likely just be a quick two second shot at the end of the special anyway.

 

[Saul]

 

[Saul]

No Fu*KING WAY!

2AM here and I think I woke up half the building. Brilliant.

More 8th Doctor! Give us a series! Liked how the regeneration was different this time. Loved everything. Just needed to be longer!

 

[marillion]

Indeed.. How cool would it be to have a series based on 8th's life through the Time War, leading up to his regeneration into Hurt... A full blown series would be too much to ask for but maybe a shorter, web-based series or something...

 

[davejames]

I'd be happy with just a series of 6 minute shorts like this one.

 

[Photoman15]

What if at the end of the War Doctors usefulness, he reverts/regenerates/degenerates back to McGann (8)?