The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by mymatty, Oct 10, 2013.

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The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

  1. I hope so.

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  2. I hope not.

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    78.6%
  1. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    I've got enough of a headache hearing about how the AltUniverse is not to fans' liking. Imagine the uproar over the Alternate AltUniverse!

    Ugh...
     
  2. bullethead

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    Honestly, I wouldn't have minded a mirror universe story for Star Trek into Darkness, but now is not the right time. I do hope the mirror universe gets on the big screen one day, but the guys running the reboot need to get people back on board and pumped for the next movie after using Khan fell flat.
     
  3. BillJ

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    Four-hundred and fifty million dollars and nine out of ten people liking it doesn't qualify as "fell flat".

    At the very least, we have very different definitions of "fell flat".
     
  4. Opus

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    Kicking the crap out of the competition in BD sales qualifies as "fell flat"?

    Highest grossing Trek movie worldwide, highest overseas BO for a Trek movie ever is considered "fell flat"?

    Who knew...
     
  5. shapeshifter

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    I agree with the consensus, too soon/too difficult to pull off.

    I could see the idea someday making it into a novel, whenever they lift the ban on them in the nuverse.
     
  6. MakeshiftPython

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    No thanks, just come up with something original for once.
     
  7. Set Harth

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    Why not? Should take about thirty minutes at Abramsverse speeds.
     
  8. feek61

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    OH HELL NO!!!

    I have a great idea; come-up with a NEW and interesting idea!
     
  9. austen_pierce

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    Mirror, Mirror: no. By extension, MU=no.

    If they must rehash for the next movie, I'm still in the Doomsday Machine or Balance of Terror camp.

    But to stay on topic, sort of, I agree that Mirror, Mirror doesn't a feature film make, and that adding MU to AU just feels too nerdy for general audiences to swallow, never mind giving fans one more thing to groan about.

    I really liked the ENT In a Mirror, Darkly ep. I would love to see a CGI big screen appropriate version of TOS Defiant or even Enterprise pop out of 'whatever'. Yes, this is utter fanwank, and I don't think it's the forward motion the franchise needs.

    Might as well hope for the 1701-A to pop with Shatner on screen for a five second cameo, if only to deliver his famous "Good morning, Captian" line to Pine. ROTFL.
     
  10. Balrog

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    I could dig a MU movie, as long as they gave equal time to the good guys.
     
  11. Gaith

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    A nu-MU movie: STAR TREK INTO REALLY DARK DARKNESS
     
  12. Noname Given

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    - I'm a TOS fan first and foremost (been watching since 1969).
    - I LOVED both ST09 and STID
    ^^^
    The above said, I REALLY hope that with the third one, they do a completely original story that doesn't rely on main elements from a previous TOS episode or film.

    (And IMO STID was more rooted in 'Space Seed' then in 'STII:TWoK' and again, while it did go in original directions, again, I would really like to see a new 'Star Trek' story in that Universe, with no 24th Century elements bled over from the 'Prime Universe' ala ST09; or the 'Space Seed' and TWoK ala STID.)
     
  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    This is the MU. There ARE no good guys. That's kind of the point. :evil:

    (srsly, I wouldn't want any kind of crossover. Just a full-out Terran Empire slugfest.)
     
  14. The Wormhole

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    Problem is, that wouldn't make any money at the box office.
     
  15. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ It could, if done right.
     
  16. BillJ

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    I think it would need to be some type of crossover. But, I simply don't think we've known these characters long enough for a Mirror Universe entry to be satisfying.

    It would make for an interesting novel, if the restriction on writing in the Abramsverse is ever lifted.
     
  17. shapeshifter

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    In the nuverse, couldn't the mirrorverse be the Primeline? What a hellava bone that would be, somehow getting a little peek at the ol' stomping grounds.[/wishful thinking]
     
  18. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Eh? :confused:

    Just like the prime timeline - the 'regular' Trek universe - is unchanged and still exists, so does its associated Mirror universe. They could show that one in a future Abrams film, or do an Abrams-MU.

    As for how an Abrams-MU would look, or what its origin would be? Could be anything. Doesn't even have to involve a MU-Nero, although it probably would.

    And for purposes of this discussion I am completely ignoring the MU as depicted in the recent Abrams comics. Mainly because of this:

    The whole thing is in itself a story, told by the 'regular' nuMcCoy and nuScotty.
     
  19. The Wormhole

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    The problem with the "it's just Bones and Scotty telling a story" theory is that they know too much about the MU if true. There's no reason they should know the MU's humans run something called the Terran Empire, or that Spock Prime once visited a universe ruled by the Empire. That the Empire's officers are all armed with daggers and that they advance in rank by murdering their superiors.

    But then you have the problem that the elderly Spock presented in this story clearly isn't Spock Prime, meaning both he and Nero must come from a different universe that is pretty similar to the Prime Universe.

    That entire comic story was a mess, and that's before you get to the record number of art errors in it...
     
  20. Smellmet

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    I don't think they should go anywhere near any mirror or time travel stuff, I think it would start to alienate they very viewers they've managed to bag in the last 2 instalments