IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by serenitytrek1, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Noddy

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    Ohhh dear. Sounds like we've got problems. :(
     
  2. Pauln6

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    Violent outbursts can ameliorate the effects of Pon Farr - the problem on New Vulcan was that this didn't seem to help. I think the assumption was that something in the Vulcan atmosphere helped this process (most likely bacteria but they also took into account exact composition, gravity, magnetism etc). Not sure why they had women there though - while I'm a fan of being more inclusive, I always thought Pon Farr was a male thing.
     
  3. Christopher

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    ^Enterprise confirmed that Vulcan females experience pon farr as well. T'Pol underwent premature pon farr in "Bounty," and Mirror Trip "helped" Mirror T'Pol through her pon farr.
     
  4. Therin of Andor

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    While we saw T'Pol go through it canonically in ENT, I recall fan surprise when Saavik underwent pon farr in the DC Comics post-ST II series' two-parter, "The Origin of Saavik!", which led into the ST III adaptation.
     
  5. Christopher

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    If you think about it, the fan notion that pon farr is male-only is kind of an oddity, since that's never suggested by the dialogue in "Amok Time." Spock says it's something Vulcans go through, not Vulcan men. "How do Vulcans choose their mates?" "It strips our minds from us." And particularly "...at the proper time, we would both be drawn to Koon-ut-kal-if-fee." The only thing he says that even hints at it being male-only is "we are driven by forces we cannot control to return home and take a wife."

    Well, on second thought, I guess the idea comes from the fact that T'Pring wasn't going through the blood fever while Spock was. But then, T'Pring had presumably had Stonn's "help" to ease her symptoms. Or maybe she was just that cold.
     
  6. JD

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    Were they the same age?
     
  7. Christopher

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    ^Yes. "By our parents' arrangement. A ceremony while we were but seven years of age."
     
  8. The Wormhole

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    Presumably they'd have to be in order for their ponn farr cycles to sync up. I'm assuming the cycle is synced up between couples, seems logical. Although in the real world, Arlene Martel is in fact three years younger than Nimoy.
     
  9. Stevil2001

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    I feel like there's at least one novel that says pon farr is experienced by males and bonded females, though ENT probably supersedes that.
     
  10. JD

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    Ok, I couldn't remember if they said anything that specific about T'Pring.
     
  11. Mr. Laser Beam

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    "Stonn cold", if you will.
     
  12. Markonian

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    I don't think it is necessary for them to be of the same age for the pon farr to link up. Possibly, their cycles would sync up by itself, similar to girls in a dorm having their cycles converge to the same time.

    And if that doesn't work, it could possibly be induced via mindmeld, similar to B'Elanna's experience with Vorik. :vulcan:
     
  13. Pauln6

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    Ah thanks. A lot of Enterprise episodes are a blur. Unless they have Andorians in!
     
  14. Hando

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    I think that the problem lies in STIII.

     
  15. Noddy

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    Hi Christopher,

    What's your opinion on the Pon Farr arc in Ongoing, specifically how it's resolved?
     
  16. Christopher

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    ^Haven't read it yet.
     
  17. jpv2000

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    Oh yes, indeed. And I can't blame him, in his place I would have "helped" her as well. ;)
     
  18. Mr. Laser Beam

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    I guess she really does have a heart of Stonn after all...

    Then again, since Saavik is half Romulan, maybe she doesn't endure pon farr and thus assumes that no other Vulcan woman would.
     
  19. Noddy

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    Doesn't Saavik also experience it in Vulcan's Heart, or am I mis-remembering? It's been ages since I last read that book.
     
  20. F. King Daniel

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    Yep, in which we're told that it happens to some Romulans, too.