No, the movie was crap due to all of those other things.
The real question here is, "Will Foxx be a better Elektra than Jennifer Garner?"
‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’
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^D'oh! Must fix it!
Except that they do pay attention to every reaction, not just the cross-section that we sci-fi/comics nerds get in our bubble. That's a really small fraction of the total audience, so it doesn't loom remotely as large in the studios' considerations as it does in your or my experience as a fan trawling the Internet. Outside of the geek bubble, Ben Affleck is a highly regarded actor-writer-director, and I imagine a lot of people are bewildered at the intensity of the fan reactions, because Daredevil does not define Affleck for them.
And just in general, people who pay attention to all the hype must be used to the ridiculous overreactions that always come from a certain segment of the fan community, so they'd know better than to worry about it. You're talking as though this is something new or unprecedented. It isn't. It's the same thing we've seen time after time after time, and there's no reason it should be any more of a concern now than it was then.
If studios were paranoid enough to overreact to fan rage, then they would've replaced Heath Ledger as the Joker and we would've been cheated out of one of the great performances in film history (although maybe Ledger wouldn't have died then, so, hmm). Fan rage is routinely wrong. Sometimes it's right, but then, if you guess "tails" every single time a coin is flipped, you'll end up right about half the time. Statistically speaking, there is no reason to trust fan rage as a reliable predictor of anything. It's just a reflex action.
I think maybe the only bit of comics-movie casting that every fan immediately loved was Patrick Stewart as Professor X. Heck, everyone who was a fan of both Star Trek and the X-Men had believed all along that he would be perfect for the role. A friend of mine in college nominated him for Professor X back in the late '80s. Diane Duane wrote an X-Men novel where Xavier talked like Captain Picard years before Stewart was actually cast in the role.
Even so, there were probably people who went "WTF? Since when was Professor X English?!!!!"
Honestly, I think we've already moved on to the backlash against the "uproar." Even USA TODAY ran a satirical piece today mocking the over-reaction to Affleck's casting:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2013/08/27/josh-gad-ben-affleck-batman/2705911/
^Very funny. I especially liked his mock-twitter usernames.
http://www.michiganfilmoffice.org/The-Film-Office/Press-Releases/Detail.aspx?id=12540
So does this give us any clues in the direction that WB/affleck/goyer/Snyder is taking this movie/franchise
So does this give us any clues in the direction that WB/affleck/goyer/Snyder is taking this movie/franchise
As a Michigander, I think this is great news
The new Transformers movie is doing a lot of filming in Michigan as well, but the Transformers movies aren't very good.....
Detroit. Alot of abandoned and crumbling buildings.
Say hello to the new Gotham City filming location
Say hello to the new Gotham City filming location
That's what I was thinking. Should look pretty cool on screen.
Plus the Chrysler building in downtown detroit could be wayne industries.
The outcry against Keaton, mostly in the form of newspaper and magazine articles (no 'net back then), was pretty strong. I recall screwing up my face when I got the news in what was then a low tech WTF icon. I said Keaton didn't "fit" the role. He was a stand up comic, a very good stand up comic, and a good comedic actor -- but Batman...NO.
What many of us didn't know back then was how great an actor he was. Really good actors can do a number of different types of acting, comedy, drama, melodrama. Keaton, to this day, is by far my favorite Batman actor.
As Matt Damon stated in those quotes fiurther upthread, the Batman role doesn't require much acting, (although a good actor could have dne more with the role than Bale did), so Affleck needs to really keep from bumping into suff on set. If he can do this, he at least shouldn't be any worse than the previous Batman actor.
As a Michigander, I think this is great news
It's to do with the good tax credit system the state has - MOS2 is getting $35 million.
As a Michigander, I think this is great news
It's to do with the good tax credit system the state has - MOS2 is getting $35 million.
Yeah, the tax credit is a good idea. At least they are finally trying to really improve the economy.
Detroit is messed up. I was born and raised in Michigan, and I remember going through the city and some areas would be very nice, but then I would go into another area, which was full of abandoned and boarded up homes and high-rises with graffiti and stuff, and it looked like a scene out of a Mad Max movie. The city has been on a downhill spiral since the 70's, and the filing for bankruptcy is the best thing to happen to it in years, because it is is a chance at a new start. Let's just hope that the overly powerful unions don't screw up any potential recovery. Aside from just Detroit, there is lots people-less forested areas that could be used.
Yeah I think it really requires just having the right "presence" for the role, more than anything. Whether Affleck has that, I don't know, but the Batman costume itself is so powerful and iconic that it'll probably do a lot of the work for him anyway.
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The thing I'm looking forward to is how Trey Parker and Matt Stone deal with Afleck's casting. I hope the towns people of South Park go nuts.
